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Romney: I’m ‘Very Proud’ of Romneycare
National Review ^ | August 26, 2012 | Eliana Johnson

Posted on 08/26/2012 9:14:56 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: 1035rep

Did Romney voluntarily run for office in Massachusetts, or was he forced into being their governor?


201 posted on 08/27/2012 12:23:49 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: KMAJ2

But you think it’s a good idea to give Romney the message he can do anything he wants, and you will support him unconditionally? That seems a recipe for disaster. Romney has gotten the message he doesn’t even have to reach across the aisle and make a single concession to conservatives. He won’t even abandon his stance on Obamacare.


202 posted on 08/27/2012 12:27:16 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: GreatRoad
He destroyed the best health care in the world

And that's why he is proud and he did it before Obama!

203 posted on 08/27/2012 12:27:54 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: stpio

{It doesn’t matter what Mitt says he’s going to do. It is on record, 4 times, he’s gone from supporting abortion to saying he is for life. RomneyCare provides abortion.}

I am not a single issue voter, though I am pro-life. For me, it is all about defeating Obama who is trying to destroy our country. Had a pro-life conservative been nominated I would vote for them. Unfortunately, that is not the choice I am given. I am a freedom voter, without freedom, you have nothing.


204 posted on 08/27/2012 12:29:54 AM PDT by KMAJ2 (Freedom not defended is freedom relinquished, liberty not fought for is liberty lost.)
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To: KMAJ2
I do not claim any insight into the evolution of his political position

That is the thing that is special and cynical about Mitt Romney, there was no evolution.

When it was time to run for the national GOP primary, Mitt calmly reversed himself on everything, to line up with the republican base, and then demanded that we not look at the previous 60 year history and always refer to his current campaign materials.

205 posted on 08/27/2012 12:31:14 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: svcw; mylife

For me personally, it says he tried but the libtards blocked his efforts.

I posted it because you were asking mylife for a source regarding the vetoes.

Avik Roy explained in Forbes

Romney’s idea was to permit Massachusetts insurers to sell catastrophic plans. As Avik Roy explained in Forbes, “Shorn of the costly mandates and restrictions originating in earlier state laws, these plans, called ‘Commonwealth Care Basic,’ could cost much less. Romney also proposed merging the non-group and small-group markets, so as to give individuals access to the more cost-effective plans available to small businesses.” Romney’s plan would also have involved a degree of cost sharing, so that those receiving subsidies would have an incentive to minimize their consumption.

Romney agreed to the mandate believing that Massachusetts citizens would get the opportunity to purchase inexpensive, catastrophic plans. But the legislature, together with Romney’s successor as governor, Deval Patrick, changed the law to require insurers to offer three tiers of coverage — all of them far beyond catastrophic care. Perhaps Romney ought to have foreseen what future legislatures and governors would do — but that’s a far cry from the accusation that Romneycare was indistinguishable from Obamacare.

Romney’s proposed reforms included fraud-prevention measures for Medicaid, requiring the income of both parents to be considered in children’s Medicaid eligibility, medical-malpractice tort reform, and giving individuals the same treatment as small businesses in the purchase of health plans. He envisioned a system of increased competition and choice.

The bill that passed the legislature contained a number of features Romney couldn’t countenance. He opposed the mandate, preferring to permit individuals to post a $10,000 bond in lieu of insurance. The legislature overrode him. He vetoed the employer mandate, coverage for illegal aliens, the creation of a new bureaucracy to be called the Public Health Council, a provision limiting improvements to Medicaid, and another provision expanding Medicaid coverage to include dental care. His vetoes were overridden.


206 posted on 08/27/2012 12:35:48 AM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: nickcarraway

Now that’s just silly.


207 posted on 08/27/2012 12:39:30 AM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: svcw

No, that is not what I said, I said it does not have the “substance necessary” to change my opinion. I am sure it does hold the substance you need to support your opinion.

I do not claim any insight into Mittens doing the best he thought he could, I merely stated the political reality in the state of Massachusetts government.

You can claim Mittens is a “liberal”, but you cannot support the argument that a vote for Mittens and Obama are one and the same. Obama is far worse and a left wing extremist. So what do you label Obama?

Most liberal Republican ever? Try Teddy Roosevelt, an admitted progressive.

I do not seek to tell you to change your mind, that would be a futile effort.


208 posted on 08/27/2012 12:40:30 AM PDT by KMAJ2 (Freedom not defended is freedom relinquished, liberty not fought for is liberty lost.)
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To: nickcarraway

He picked Paul Ryan, which was a concession to conservatives. He has already stated and repeated on the campaign trail that he will repeal Obamacare, you certainly know that Obama will not. I oppose Obama unconditionally and no other vote will accomplish removing him from office. As I have stated, I am not a Mittens lover.


209 posted on 08/27/2012 12:46:51 AM PDT by KMAJ2 (Freedom not defended is freedom relinquished, liberty not fought for is liberty lost.)
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To: 1035rep

No, he voluntarily ran for governor knowing the political situation. He can’t now use that as an excuse. Plus, he was ran for governor in a state that he knew made one ineligible to be elected president. If he wanted to be president, he could have ran for governor in Michigan or Utah. But he knows no one from the Dukakis/Kerry state is getting elected.


210 posted on 08/27/2012 12:48:49 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: KMAJ2
Why couldn't he have picked a conservative VP?

Did you read the article at the beginning of this thread? He will not repeal something he is 'very proud' of. It is a delusion to think he will.

211 posted on 08/27/2012 12:52:56 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Ya can’t make a race horse out of a mule.

He’s promised to repeal obamacare. Do y’all believe and trust him? You’re going to have to.


212 posted on 08/27/2012 12:53:09 AM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: onyx

His own words: Romney: I’m ‘Very Proud’ of Romneycare


213 posted on 08/27/2012 12:58:16 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: mylife
All the Mormons I have known are decent people too.

Of course, I never met much less knew:

Frank Church;

Morris Udall;

Stewart Udall;

Tom Udall;

Mark Udall;

George Romney;

Lenore Romney;

OR MYTH ROMNEY.

However, on the basis of their respective track records as pro-aborts, social libertines, wild-eyed leftists and what not, I have to choose between Mormonism and them. Just as they have. The doctrines of the Mormon Church and the thoroughgoing personal and moral decency of most individual Mormons seem to have little in common with any of the afore-mentioned. I will not blame the LDS Church for the despicable evil that is each of the aforementioned. I will blame each of them individually and I never did and never will vote for any of them.

214 posted on 08/27/2012 12:58:56 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline/Tomas de Torquemada Gentleman's Society: Roast 'em!)
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To: Gene Eric

The “next disaster” was delivered the day that Mittler bought the necessary number of delegates to be nominated.


215 posted on 08/27/2012 1:01:21 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline/Tomas de Torquemada Gentleman's Society: Roast 'em!)
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To: nickcarraway
On that , I believe him.
216 posted on 08/27/2012 1:05:49 AM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: BlackElk

What about Catholics. As a Catholic, I could say the same thing about most elected Catholics.


217 posted on 08/27/2012 1:12:45 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
As a Catholic, I would say that we have very few actual Catholics in public office. There are people who CLAIM to be Catholic but do not fool those who are.

The poseurs include: Anything named Kennedy, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, Rosa DeLauro, Patty Murray, Mary Landrieu, Tom Harkin, Anthony Cuomo, Mario Cuomo, Martin O'Malley, Danell Malloy, Susan Collins, Dede Scozzafava, Chris Murphy, Jack Reed, Patrick Leahy, Tim Kaine, Robert Casey the Younger, the late Robert Drinan, SJ, the lunatic Marxist and feminazi nuns of the LWCR, etc.

I would say that your point is, as usual, well taken.

218 posted on 08/27/2012 1:33:05 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline/Tomas de Torquemada Gentleman's Society: Roast 'em!)
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To: 1035rep
Very good job on your post. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jun/05/eric-fehrnstrom/mitt-romney-campaign-says-job-growth-massachusetts/ Just a little more on Romney. Of course Axlerod lies about Romney and it gets posted here as truth!
219 posted on 08/27/2012 2:42:31 AM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: carcraft

More about Romney turning around the MA state budget http://myclob.pbworks.com/w/page/21958545/Massachusetts%20budget


220 posted on 08/27/2012 2:47:25 AM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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