Posted on 08/26/2012 11:50:34 AM PDT by lbryce
That’s the message in the skies above today’s Romney/Ryan rally in Powell, Oiho Ohio. Courtesy of Jan Crawford at CBS News, here’s a banner ad that’s being flown overhead:
Yep. “Better then.” That’s what it says.
Maeve Reston at the LA Times says MoveOn.org is responsible for this. That makes sense, because they’re super-smart.
Speaking of words that people don’t know how to use, I’ve been informed by my old pal Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) that I’m a “birther.” The reason I’m a “birther” is that I think Obama was born in Hawaii. I’m also a “birther” because when Obama wants me to believe he went over 15 years without reading his own literary bio that falsely claimed he was born elsewhere, I get a little skeptical.
Thinking that Obama had anything to do with this, or even knew about it, is a “conspiracy theory.” According to Weigel, anyway. Yeah, what sort of unbridled narcissist would read his own literary bio? Not Obama, that’s for sure…
“Birther” means whatever it needs to mean at the moment a liberal uses it. People who think Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii are “birthers.” People who think Obama was born in Hawaii, and who wonder why he used to claim otherwise, are also “birthers.” The word has been rendered meaningless. Now it’s just an epithet to throw out when you don’t feel like thinking.
But hey, at least MoveOn spelled it right!
P.S. Romney, back in April: “I believe the president was born in the United States.” HOW DARE HE JOKE ABOUT IT???
I can smell the desperation. Smells like victory!
That's because those people were not citizens (there were a few Native Americans and freed slaves who became citizens, but generally those populations were non-citizens and thus did not convey native-born citizenship to their descendants).
I find this issue to be very interesting and very important.
I find it to be a distraction, useless at best and damaging at worst, from the task of winning the political battle by winning the allegiance of the voters.
False.
There are those who are naturalized at birth by statute (such as Barry 0 if his claimed birth facts are true); but such people are not natural born citizens. The idea that mere "born citizens" should be eligible to the Presidency was proposed by Hamilton and rejected by the Constitutional Convention.
You should stop spreading this anti-American disinformation.
Suppose Mitt dropped out because his father wasn't an American citizen when Mitt was born, and therefore he couldn't possibly be an NBC?
How would the left spin that?
Bammy's sperm donor was never even a permanent resident, let alone a citizen.
The term is "anchor baby"...
Also known as natural-born. Under present interpretation of the 14th Amendment.
I will cheerfully agree that I don’t agree, and wish the Court would change it, but that is the present interpretation.
You do not know that it it the definition of NBC.
Do you know how I know you don't know that?
Because NO ONE knows what the phrase Natural Born Citizen means.
Natural born was defined once. In a 1790 law. The 1795 law that replaced it drops the reference to "Natural Born".
To the best of my knowledge, this was the first, last and only use of the term "Natural Born Citizen" in legislated law.
The term hasn't had an actual legal definition since.
Unless and until SCOTUS sees fit to clearly define the term the Founding Fathers though was just too obvious for words, I'm in the to be a Natural Born Citizen one must be born on US soil (jus soli) AND of US citizen parentS (jus sanguinis) AND have no other citizenships at birth.
To hold this singular office one must have no hint of divided loyalties or allegiances.
YMMV...
“No person shall be eligible to the office of President of the United States unless he be now a Citizen of one of the States, or hereafter be born a Citizen of the United States.”
That was what Hamilton proposed.
There is no record of any debate on the subject, and the change may for all we know have been purely stylistic, with no intent to change the meaning at all.
You know, I don’t recall voting on whether you get to be the decider as to what opinions are American and which are not. Since the whole birther controversy has probably worked in Obama’s favor, I guest we can assume its proponents are working for his re-election.
That is at least as logical as your claim that anyone who disagrees with you is anti-American.
I cheerfully agree that the term is not defined.
I do find your position above somewhat odd. It implies that a person born of American parents is somehow more loyal to America as a consequence.
While this may have been a reasonable provision for the Founders to stick in, it is pretty obviously not a fact in today's world.
We have many millions of perfectly NB citizens who are enthusiastically anti-American. And millions of pro-American naturalized citizens.
Just pointing out that the Founders could not have envisioned a culture in which the majority of the ruling elite would be anti-American.
That’s funny. Apparently, telling the truth is SO inconvenient you gave up trying.
I wonder how many conservatives who were involved...the banner maker, the pilot, etc....bit their tongues to keep from laughing while allowing the idiot libtard to put his stupidity on display?
There's a very straighforward explanation for that: the framers of the Constitution never foresaw a fraud like Obama who probably did not meet the Constitutional qualifications, yet had the gall to pull such a huge hoax over the nation.
Sad but true.
When the Constitution was written there were no birth certificates in America. If a person were naturalized, their history was usually well known, and the naturalization was recorded.
Births were rarely recorded other than in family Bibles.
Obviously, the airplane ad sign was supposed to read: “America is Better WHEN Birtherism Rules.”
It’s a hoax.
I’m Barack Obama and I approve this message. Harvard is proud of me!
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