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Using Semantics to Take Down Conservative Representative Todd Akin
Townhall.com ^ | August 26, 2012 | Rachel Alexander

Posted on 08/26/2012 4:55:54 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Servant of the Cross

“If it weren’t for Huckabee, Fred Thompson would be President right now.”

Fred Thompson lost because Fred Thompson ran a very POOR campaign. Don’t blame Huckabee for Thompson’s failings. Also, Thompson waffled foreever and was too late getting in the campaign....that is what cost him the election.

Also, even IF he had gotten the nomination....what makes you think he could have beaten Unicorns and Butterflys in 2008? I doubt he could have. Plus, he wasn’t that well liked by the social conservative base. Either you please the socons or you loose....it is that simple.


121 posted on 08/26/2012 1:09:20 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: WILLIALAL

I don’t accept the premise that men don’t hold a right to express their views on rape, abortion, etc. I don’t buy into gender politics. A woman who’s never been raped doesn’t know anything more about rape than a man who’s never been raped. And men can be and are raped too.

We agree his statement was ill-conceived and didn’t show a great command of the facts. We agree it was a gaffe. So no point in explaining how it was a politically damaging thing, unnecessary, etc. We all get that. That’s beating a dead horse.

All I’ve been saying is that he deserves a second chance, he didn’t commit an illegal or immoral act, the GOP party should have accepted his apology and turned their campaign around to McCaskill’s record, and his funding from the RNC and Rove should be restored because winning the Senate seat is definitely not possible without that money. The party doesn’t get to decide whether he drops out or not so they need to either support him or show me some other brilliant plan for winning the seat. If they have a 3rd party candidate they think can win and they want to back, put that plan on the table. If they don’t, then back Akin unless he chooses to drop out. Anything else is an unconscionable concession of the Senate seat to one of Obama’s #1 sycophantic lackeys in the Senate.


122 posted on 08/26/2012 1:21:34 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: DManA

<>Please explain to me why the relative rate of pregnancy after a rape is relevant to the topic of Federal abortion policy?<>

Your answer is here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2922747/posts?page=168#168


123 posted on 08/26/2012 1:30:10 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: JediJones

“All I’ve been saying is that he deserves a second chance”

This is where the problem lies. There are too many people out there who are not going to give him a second chance and I’m not talking about conservatives, pro-lifers etc.
I’m talking about the moderate-independent voter. Their minds are already made up
He doesn’t now nor will he have anywhere near enough money to try and change the perception these people now hold of him.

Did you watch any of the morning political shows this morning?

The MSM/Dems are like a hungry mongrel dog with a juicy new bone, they ain’t letting go of it for a long long time.


124 posted on 08/26/2012 1:35:03 PM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: JediJones

“I don’t accept the premise that men don’t hold a right to express their views on rape, abortion, etc. I don’t buy into gender politics. A woman who’s never been raped doesn’t know anything more about rape than a man who’s never been raped. And men can be and are raped too.”

My point is, you don’t make a stated opinion on women faking a rape charge in a political campaign and then follow that up with a lesson on the female reproductive system. It came off as condescending and misogynistic.

A fatal gaffe. Not a gaffe, a fatal one.


125 posted on 08/26/2012 1:41:59 PM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: Kaslin

Trust me, the voters in Missouri aren’t going to vote for him. Romney will carry the state by 7-8 points. I can see Akin losing by double digits.

Are you a Missourian?


126 posted on 08/26/2012 1:43:40 PM PDT by the808bass
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To: the808bass
Trust me, the voters in Missouri aren’t going to vote for him.

Okay, then who should and would replace him on the ballot???

127 posted on 08/26/2012 2:01:58 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

That is an incoherent mess. How about you giving it a try?


128 posted on 08/26/2012 2:05:58 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

Then try this:

The Rarity of Pregnancies Resulting from Rape and Incest

http://www.hli.org/index.php/cloning/266?task=view

It begins at halfway down the page —


129 posted on 08/26/2012 2:22:11 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: philman_36

If we were setting up a Conservative party, I don’t think he’d get in under the rules for a candidate we’d support. Not saying he couldn’t be a voter and giver, and go out and campaign for others, but he should have rejected their support in the primary.


130 posted on 08/26/2012 2:26:11 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: C. Edmund Wright
You need help on this one?
Not really, I'd just like to check out your reasoning.
131 posted on 08/26/2012 2:27:28 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: JediJones; tsowellfan
This is politics. The rule is "what ya' done fer us lately", and "if you need a friend get a dog".

Morality plays have a different sort of judgment.

132 posted on 08/26/2012 2:28:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If this ploy by McCaskill works (provide financial support and airtime to the guy you think will lose), everybody will be doing that ~ running ringers in the Democrat primaries to take advantage of some stupid statement of theirs ~ and the Democrats will certainly be running ringers in Republican primaries.

Akin might have lost in the primary if he'd angrily and vociferously repudiated McCaskill's support ~ but he wouldn't be in this position looking for all the world like a doufous.

133 posted on 08/26/2012 2:33:54 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SeminoleCounty
Akin barely got 1/3. BTW, Mitt ordinarily had difficulty breaking 22% ~ in any primary where he had 'legitimate opposition' ~ he simply wiped people out with money since he could afford to campaign and they couldn't.

I have what is essentially the same complaint with both the people I mentioned.

Then, too, they are insufficiently Conservative!

134 posted on 08/26/2012 2:39:16 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: WILLIALAL

The non-Conservative faction mouthpieces advocated someone be run other than the other two Conservatives in that race. Most of us know they don’t want a Conservative to win, and I most certainly want a Conservative to win, so you’ll have to come up with a WINNING Conservative ~ Akin does not seem to have The Mandate of Heaven!


135 posted on 08/26/2012 2:43:16 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kaslin
Kaslin, when you make bad choices I think I have a responsibility to speak up.

Make good choices and you won't hear a word.

136 posted on 08/26/2012 2:46:22 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kaslin

BTW, who the voters of MO put in the Senate affects all of us. There is no requirement we have to stand there like doufouses just dumbstruck at it all


137 posted on 08/26/2012 2:47:49 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Uncle Chip

If that is what he’d said and stopped at that it would have been fine. But then he launched into this weird theory about stress and hormones trying to explain why it’s so rare. That is what was so way out of bounds. The physiology of rape is completely irrelevant to the discussion.


138 posted on 08/26/2012 2:48:21 PM PDT by DManA
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To: SauronOfMordor
Remember who said "I was brainwashed' ~ a politician who had Presidential aspirations ~ a fellow named GEORGE ROMNEY.

Akin isn't the first politician to run into that problem.

139 posted on 08/26/2012 2:53:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
I don't believe the conservative republicans or the democrats have anything to do with Mark Foley's actions which got him into trouble and I don't believe anybody other than Akin himself is responsible for his silly comments.

If I were an Akin supporter I would start spending my time attacking the real opposition, Claire, rather than attack a straw man.

If he's defeated in November he alone will be the blame for that defeat and the results of it.

140 posted on 08/26/2012 3:14:38 PM PDT by tsowellfan (Voting for Obama/Biden is like purposely swallowing two tapeworms)
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