Posted on 08/24/2012 6:43:31 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
As the controversy over Republican Senate candidate Todd Akins legitimate rape comment continues, Mitt Romneys lead in Missouri has vanished.
The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Missouri Voters finds President Obama with 47% support to Romneys 46%. Three percent (3%) favor some other candidate in the race, and three percent (3%) more are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
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You are missing the point--maybe intentionally. You posit that winning is the single most important criterion. Lugar is a sure winner, Mourdock is not. Yet, you are willing to take a chance on Mourdock. My question to you is should Mourdock have been discouraged from running so as not to put the seat at risk?
Nominating Christine O' Donnell was a mistake. She was a joke candidate and lost by roughly the margin every political realist knew she would (17 points). Castle is a RINO crapweasel, but this is a case where the trade off wasn't worth it. Nominating her guaranteed a loss. Castle would have been better in that particular case.
This is where we have a profound disagreement. Christine O'Donnell beat Castle in the primary. She was the nominee of the party. I prefer a loss to putting into office a Mike Castle, Arlen Specter, or Jim Jeffords with an R after their name. Romnald Reagan said,
A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers. I do not believe I have proposed anything that is contrary to what has been considered Republican principle. It is at the same time the very basis of conservatism. It is time to reassert that principle and raise it to full view. And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way.
The more the GOP dilutes its brand, the greater the possibility of a third party that will break away from the GOP. More than likely, that group will be conservatives.
Today, Rasmussen Reports has released a presidential poll run in Missouri on August 22. The poll indicates alarming movement in the Obama/Romney horse race resulting from MO’s GOP senate nominee Todd Akin’s controversial remarks. Clearly, there has been collateral damage.
Before Akin’s remarks hit the airwaves and consequent media frenzy erupted, Romney led Obama 50% to 44%. However, one month later, Romney has not only lost his lead and dropped 4%, but Obama now has 1% advantage. The campaign might have expected a bounce from the announcement of Paul Ryan as the vice-presidential pick, but that bounce is impossible to quantify now.
Where are Romney’s losses? He has lost 9% of the male vote. In July, we saw Romney with 58% of the male vote. The latest numbers show that Romney’s male support has dropped to 49%. Obama has picked up 5% of Romney’s losses.
With these new developments, it will be difficult for the left to spin Akin’s remarks as part of the “GOP war on women.” Romney’s support among women is consistent before and after the Akin affair, 44% support him now and 44% supported him in July.
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Nominating a handful of awful Senate candidates and "preferring a loss" wiped out any good all the Tea Party House members might have done this term. Absolutely nothing they passed in the House can even get a vote in the Senate. That very kind of "preferring a loss" mentality may mean the Tea Party caucus can never actually accomplish anything. Simply having an (R) Senate Majority Leader makes all the difference in the world. It means we could have gotten votes on our House passed bills. Even if crapweasel Castle and electable candidates from Nevada and Colorado voted no on much of it, we would have still been getting votes, passing some stuff and forcing Hussein to veto popular bills. Unfortunately, we nominated clown candidates like O'Donnell and Angle and wasted a shot at winning the US Senate.
Like I said, you have to weigh each case individually. The goal for rational people who live in the world of political reality is to nominate the most conservative candidate who CAN win. There is no point in nominating people that haven't got a chance. O'Donnell not only didn't have a chance, she was a national joke and made the very conservative activists that were supporting her look ridiculous.
There was nothing wrong with Akin prior to his idiotic comments. I probably would have gone with Steelman in the primaries were I a Missouri voter, but Akin was clearly on a path to win the Senate seat. Once he blew up his campaign and turned himself into a liability for the GOP, conservative movement and the pro-life cause it was time for him to step aside. Again, the seat is vastly more important than Akin's politicians ego or bruised feelings.
So everyone who says something stupid should drop out? The party will fall, they already have lost lots of Christian conservatives who take the attack on Akins as an attack on them. The RNC caused this explosion themselves and they keep putting fire on it. There WILL be someone or something else next week that the left will attack. That is what they always do. The RNC super-hyped this so they could pick their own candidate. And what will the spineless RNC do next time? Shake in their boots and run again. How about standing up and fighting. This is one of biggest problems in this party. They won't fight. They want to appear nice, but they aren't to their own. They should just SPEAK THE TRUTH and quit playing political games. Run some brave commercials on TV not just on the Internet.
Example of a commercial
Todd Akins saying: I made a mistake in what I said. I have apologized ? times. Voters I ask you this question. Which is worse; someone who misspeaks or someone who thinks it ok to kill a baby who is ready to be born; 9 months in the womb and a person who thinks it's ok to let a babies die outside the womb because they she was meant to be aborted.
My words were wrong, but Obama’s extreme positions on abortion are so outrageous, that Missourians will not accept partial-birth abortion up to 9 months or infanticide.
Do you know that many people do not believe that abortions are done up to 9 months. They say, if it were true the republicans would be making commercials about it. I have seen it turn a person who was going to vote for Gore not vote at all. These are non-political people who watch lots of tv, and don't care about the news. They are people we need to reach. Whoever does political ads for the rnc has no imagination or guts.
I understand how you feel. John McCain feels the same way, which is why he's telling Romney to disavow the entire Tea Party.
This is that the leadership has been saying about the freshmen class of 2010.
I agree with you, Linda. The fact that Mitt Romney is the nominee in a party that is supposed to be conservative tells me everything I need to know about where we are as a country. Voters in this country are supremely stupid and unprincipled, and they no longer deserve a decent government or a decent country, in my opinion. Too many people think that if we can just get enough Rs in office, everything will be OK again. Well, it wont, and a big part of the reason is that the Rs no longer fight for principles. Without principles, it doesnt matter which jackass is in office.
I wish I knew how to post a picture of a cowboy blowing smoke off his gun, because you are so right. It seems the republican party has been selling their soul to win, and not realizing all they are losing. I guess you have to be a true conservative to see that. Many seem to be moving left without even knowing it or worse, just plain compromising.
When what he says is so stupid that it puts a close sentate race and national race in jeapordy?
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Some of you people are seriously living in a cocoon to not see the damage going on here by this little cabal of delusional nuts.
And you think there is some nobility to defending such a stupid and ridiculous candidate who risks sinking the ship?
Please, get off your high horse and wake up already.
Doug, my dear FRiend..
After reading my own post I can see how you would think that I was trying to make that narrow point of defending Akins..
My intention was to draw the much larger fact that any broader thinking voter, would even consider voting for a loonie, lying, unrepentant, leftest, over someone who stupidly stumbled over his deeper message of saving babies at any cost.. :)
“Nominating Christine O’ Donnell was a mistake. She was a joke candidate and lost by roughly the margin every political realist knew she would (17 points). Castle is a RINO crapweasel, but this is a case where the trade off wasn’t worth it. Nominating her guaranteed a loss. Castle would have been better in that particular case.”
I agree. I was no fan of Castle. Not a bit. But he would have voted with the GOP at least 1/2 of the time. The Dem candidate? Well, his current voting record pretty much speaks for itself.
Wouldn’t it be nice if we could clone Jim DeMint’s and Tom Coburn’s and run ‘em in all 50 states? Wouldn’t it be nice if they’d each win their elections with 65% of the vote? I’d love it.
But it ain’t gonna happen.
So we settle for less than what we wanted. It’s sucks sometimes - but that’s life. NO ONE gets what they want all of the time. The people out there who say point at themselves and say “I’m principled” - are in many cases, not. They’re spoiled brats.
The bottom line in the Senate? 51 votes. And right now,
Until this broke, no sane person had ever heard of this belief. If Akin had quickly just gone away we’d have looked upon him as simply weird. Unfortunately - and Rush mentioned it on Tuesday - we have now learnt that this is dogma for a hopefully small subset.
There are many middle of the road swing voters who Lean Pro life who will now now of this dogma and will be terrified that it is prevalent and vote Dem. The DNC nows this and is very good at scaring right leaning people especially woman who get terrified from these folks.
A woman’s greates fear is rape only followed by pregnancy from that. I can understand the raoe exception . Many lifers do, but to these fanatics , a pregnant rape victim is a lying whore.
Also , they say we should forgive Akin for his apology, but they then go on to say that he spoke the truth. You can’t have it both ways.
Steelman may have "soft support" in your area, but not hereabouts. If someone spent $9 million to destroy your credibility it would be difficult to restore same as well.Besides, she has Dick Morris pulling for her. /s
I'd think she'd do fine in any debate with Ma.
IMO we need a woman. After all the damage done by a man...
The title is "Shining Some Sunlight on the Governments Finances" and she is bragging about .......I teamed up with one of the most conservative members of the Senate, Republican Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, to introduce legislation forcing the Pentagon to get its act together and produce a basic financial audit.
I am not sure it would be proper to post the whole email, but I wanted people to get a flavor of the Claire campaign. I cannot get rid of the non-stop nausea, as I watch this circus pass me by.
“Also , they say we should forgive Akin for his apology, but they then go on to say that he spoke the truth.”
Exactly. I noticed the same thing.
OK. I want Akins replaced with someone who is equally pro-life. He believes he is the only one who can carry the banner. It’s all about him. That is hubris.
Steelman may have “soft support” in your area, but not hereabouts........I’d think she’d do fine in any debate with Ma. IMO we need a woman.
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If Sarah Steelman would be named as the replacement for Todd Akin, I’d be “all in” for supporting her. From what I’ve read and seen of her, she’d do a great CONSERVATIVE job for us in the Senate. She has some Sarah Palin traits and is one who is not afraid to “buck the establishment”. I don’t think she’d be afraid to join a coalition against the McConnell side of the party. Actually, I suspect that she’d be “chomping at the bit” to get on with that particular “early” business.
I don’t know much about Ann Wagner so I’ll reserve judgement on her. You Missourians would know her better than I could hope to.
As a pro-lifer myself, I do not believe in a rape/incest exception on principle. That said, A. I don't believe in magic uterus genies and B. I accept that in this broken world the perfect is the enemy of the good. Pro-life without exception is still a hard sell to the general public. A law that bans most abortions that can pass is better than a law that bans all abortions that cannot pass.
If there are that many people determined to murder the unborn, the weak, the old, the ‘undesirables; determined to take what isn’t rightfully theirs; what we do to fix the economy won’t make a whit of difference. The further we move away from God, the faster we will slide into the Abyss.
Of course all the “naysayers” would perfer their candidate “McCaskill” run unapposed. Give this until after the GOP convention and Todd Akin’s comment will be forgotten history. In other words, it won’t mean a thing. Akin is going to win in Missouri with the help of God and many praying souls.
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