Posted on 08/24/2012 4:51:36 AM PDT by huldah1776
ST. LOUIS, August 23, 2012, (LifeSiteNews.com) – Now that Todd Akin has said he will be staying in the race for Missouri’s U.S. Senate seat, senior pro-life and conservative leaders including Phyllis Schlafly, Gary Bauer, and others are telling the Republican Party establishment to back off its “over-the-top” campaign to have him step aside. Phyllis Schlafly, Eagle Forum founder, supports Todd Akin. Phyllis Schlafly, Eagle Forum founder, supports Todd Akin.
Phyllis Schlafly, who emerged on the conservative scene with her 1964 book A Choice Not an Echo, rapped party elites for disenfranchising their own voters. “I don’t think people like that should make the decision,” she said. “The people of Missouri should make that decision.”
Both national pro-family leaders and local grassroots conservative leadership are confused and offended by national party leaders such as Karl Rove, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus, and Charles Krauthammer, who have vowed to cut funds from Akin’s candidacy or pushed him to withdraw from the race.
Columnist Ann Coulter has suggested Republicans stage a write-in candidacy for former Governor Kit Bond.
“The on-going parade of public denunciations by various GOP leaders is over-the-top and counterproductive,” said Gary Bauer, a former presidential candidate and leader of the Campaign for Working Families, in a statement e-mailed to LifeSiteNews.com, “Some of their public attacks on Akin have been more aggressive than anything some of these leaders have ever said about Barack Obama and his truly radical rejection of the sanctity of human life and his promotion of abortion-on-demand paid for by the taxpayer!”
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Ryan Bomberger of the Radiance Foundation had a personal stake in the issue. The child of rape, he said, “Quite frankly, I’m glad such a pro-family, pro-life stalwart, despite a few bumps and lots of scrapes, is not quitting under pressure from hypocritical pro-abortion radicals and spineless Republicans.”
Iowa Congressman Steve King, who faced his own media feeding frenzy over abortion remarks taken out of context this week, was as blunt, stating that George Soros-funded media are now “dictating the response of leading Republicans.”
The Show Me state’s conservative leaders have flocked to Akin’s side, as well.
John Putnam, Missouri state coordinator for the Tea Party Patriots, said the national party should be “circling the wagons” around their candidate, not condemning him.
Akin won his races with a family-fueled campaign that defied the state’s Republican establishment. That has led local media to conclude he owes them nothing.
If he loses the race, the Republican Party will not take back control of the U.S. Senate. But pro-family leaders say if the Republicans replace Akin, they will almost certainly lose the race.
“After allegations of sexual indiscretions in sealed divorce records, which were leaked to the media, Republican leaders pressured Jack Ryan to withdraw from the 2004 Illinois Senate race,” said Vision America Action President Dr. Rick Scarborough. “That’s how we ended up with Barack Obama in the White House—a steep price to pay for Republican squeamishness.”
“Missouri voters – who gave Akin the GOP Senate nomination – are wise enough to decide who they’d prefer to send to Washington, ultra-liberal Clair McCaskill or a decent man and an authentic conservative who misspoke,” he said.
Many see the tempest-in-a-tea-party as little more than an attempt to marginalize pro-life voices within the Republican Party. Judie Brown of the American Life League wrote, “This is really not about Akin at all; it is about the red herring that pro-abortion forces have used for years to define genuine pro-life apologists as zealots, fanatics and unrealistic Pollyannas.”
Despite Akin’s remarks, Public Policy Polling, a Democrat-leaning firm, found him polling one point ahead of Democratic incumbent Senator Claire McCaskill, 44-43. “GOP voters dislike McCaskill so much they’re not going to vote for her no matter what their nominee does,” the firm found. “Independent voters haven’t moved at all either.”
Putnam said from his perspective, the only way Akin can prevail is “if the pro-life community gets behind him and makes this a national campaign.”
There's nothing "basic" about reproductive biology. That's why fertility treatments are a huge business and area of science. It's easy for anyone to misconstrue some aspects of the process based on different articles they read.
This is Akin’s quote: “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down”
Let's look at the whole response to the question rather than just your snippet, shall we.
Charles Jaco:
Okay, so if an abortion can be considered in the case of, say, tubal pregnancy or something like that, what about in the case of rape? Should it be legal or not?
Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.):
Well, you know, uh, people always want to try to make that as one of those things, ‘Well, how do you – how do you slice this particularly tough sort of ethical question.’
It seems to me, first of all, from what I understand from doctors, that’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.
He is talking about a physiological response or reaction of which a woman has no control. Your body automatically responds in many ways to many things.
That this buffoon basically saying a womans body knows its been raped and can prevent itself from becoming pregnant.
Well, I'm not a woman, but I'm pretty sure both her mind and her body know she's been raped.
So you refute studies such as this?
Raised Cortisol Predicts Spontaneous Abortion
High urinary levels of the stress hormone cortisol are a marker for early pregnancy loss, US researchers have found.
Do you have to tell your lungs to breath? Do you have to tell your heart to beat? Do you have to tell your liver to filter? Do you have to tell your glands to pump adrenalin or cortisol into your blood stream?
Suggested reading...fight or flight cortisol
Your argument is specious and the rest of your reply isn't even worthy of response.
You are having difficulty with reality.
How so? Simply making a statement doesn't mean it's true.
I respectfully disagree with your husband.
I am a nurse anesthetist & I work for a large university healthcare system. I float to several hospitals. I have seen firsthand at the women’s hospital late term abortions being performed. And the abortionist has an OB/GYN resident assisting him. Thursday is the official late term day in that OR, but the truth is there are a few done every day of the week. In my state, 24 wks is the limit for an abortion.
I understand that fewer drs are performing abortions these days, but to say the procedure is no longer being taught is simply wrong.
See post 178, I am tired of having to repeat myself to people who are truly incapable of grasping simple biology and basic logic.
The supposition that because stress can be a contributing factor to conception and gestational problems equates to the stress of a sexual attack will prevent pregnancy more often than not is such a leap of complete logical nonsense that it is laughable.
History is littered with children that were produced through rape, are you suggesting, hey there lady, you got pregnant from being raped? Wow, you weren’t stressed enough for it to not happen? You must have enjoyed it!
Its NONSENSE, and not based on science, the jump of non linear logic you are proposing is something like this:
Women can have stress, Stress can sometimes contribute to conception difficulty, rape is stressful, ergo a raped woman won’t likely get pregnant
Is as nonsensical logically as the following:
God is Love, Love is Blind, Ray Charles is Blind, ergo Ray Charles is God.
What Akin implied and what you are trying to defend as reasonable is incredibly ignorant and moronic.
Also I should add that the Catholic medical students that I interact with at the university chapel describe being subjected to graphic lectures detailing the D&E procedures utilized for second trimester babies. The physician who does the lecture is a faculty member at the medical school, director of “reproductive medicine” at the women’s hospital, and medical director at our local Planned Parenthood.
Aiken is a perfect example of why conservatives, pro-life supporters included, keep losing to radical anti-life leftists. We are willing to go down with a sinking ship "because it's the right thing to do".
If Aiken causes MO to go with McCaskil and possibly obama we can lose this election. Does anyone think that with a Rat Senate and obama in the WH that anything will be done to fight abortion? I don't care how right Aiken is in his position on abortion. If he is not smart enough to answer loaded questions he needs to go. The war is bigger than one man.
Try thinking about what's at stake. If obama hangs on, or the Senate stays in Rat hands, obamacare stays in place. If this happens we not only have to pay for abortions, but we see our freedom to practice our faith limited to the 4 walls of a church on Sunday.
If Aiken really values life he should step down.
No its not, not if one has basic grasp of the overall process, we aren’t talking the exception cases and minutia, we are talking the 50,000 foot view level, and Akin clearly doesn’t remotely understand the 50,000 foot view level, nor do his defenders.
The problem isn’t in comprehension, the problem lies in the inability to extrapolate.
Do you have to tell your glands to pump adrenalin or cortisol into your blood stream?
Since you know so little about Akin that you don’t even know how to spell his name, I don’t think much of your opinion on his candidacy.
Frankly, WM, I am disappointed that you have chosen to join the ranks of the cowards who fear McCaskell more than God. Akin can win, and if he can’t then it is God’s will for an unfaithful Missouri and an unfaithful USA.
I will back Akin to the end. His positions on the issues mirror my own. If he steps down the GOP/e will install an Olympia Snowe clone to try to stop the bleeding. Political Correctness will have carried the day and God’s judgment will be one day closer.
OTOH, if Akin can pull off a victory after this, then the Pro-life movement will have a great victory and it will prove to all Americans that a genuine Conservative with strong pro-life convictions can win anywhere. Even one who does not pretend to be as smart as all the hand wringing Freepers around here.
Read my tagline. We have incurred a wound. Let us now march on to victory.
Akin said something stupid.
McCaskil is a flaming libtard, obama ass-kisser, baby-murder supporting, big government actual stupidass.
Which is worse?
Sorry Jedi,
Akin, clearly implied women have systems to shut it down, which is NONSENSE, not based in science and not based in reality.
Those trying to defend his statements cling to irrelevant studies as proof.
They say, studies show stress can contribute to conception issues, and rape is stressful so yes the female body does have systems to prevent pregnancy in rape... and thats an IDIOTIC claim on every level.
Those stress studies, are performed on women TRYING TO GET PREGNANT, and stress is never THE cause, it is found to be a contributing factor not a sole cause. The stress referred to in those studies are not the physical act of being raped. So we have studies of women who are having conceptual problems going to doctors and these studies showing that stress can be a contributing issue, not the sole or underlying issue at times.. and people then extrapolating that to mean a woman who is raped is less likely to get pregnant that one who’s had consensual sex.. .and that’s not logical thats MORONIC.
Women trying to get pregnant but having problems studies have shown stress can be a contributor but not sole cause for their problem. Women who are raped endure stress, ergo raped women will have conceptual problems and not likely to get pregnant...
ITS LOGICAL NONSENSE!!
What Akin stated was ignorant beyond belief and those defending him for it are showing equal if not greater ignorance. They are showing abject ignorance of BASIC biology, and also basic LOGIC.
What Akin claimed is not backed up by any science, or logical conclusions, with such basic ignorance of BASIC reproduction and logic, he has no business near the business end of legislative creation.
If we are going to fight a war let's fight to win.
Look at the field of battle. No matter how well written the law the courts throw it out. No matter how "conservative" the judge they roll over (think Roberts & obamacare). Where we have had the greatest success and won over the public is not by arguing about the most rare and extreme situations, this is the liberal field of battle. We have been winning by incrreasing regulations "to make it safe". By demanding the public be informed before making a decision, ultrasounds and parental consent laws.
All Aiken has done is throw the fight back into the liberal killing field and increased the risk we lose this election, which we cannot afford to lose. Recognizing losing tactics does not make a person the ally of your enemy.
It's a simple question with a simple answer...Do you have to tell your glands to pump adrenalin or cortisol into your blood stream?
“He said women have a magic uterus that will not allow her to become pregnant when raped.”
That may be what you THINK he said, but it is NOT what he actually said.
Given your comment, Scarlet Pimpernel, I feel the need to modify my previous statement...
The problem isn’t in comprehension, the problem lies in the inability to correctly extrapolate.
Philman, you keep digging even bigger logical holes.
No one suggested a woman doesn’t know she’s been raped, so not sure what you want to prove with that.
The supposition that Akin put forward is that because the woman knows she’s being raped she is less likely to conceive, and that’s NONSENSE.
The studies you and thos like you continue to site do NOT prove the logical points you are trying to make, and that’s the fundamental problem.
Cortisol in the urinary tract can indicate early pregnancy loss, the supposition however that STRESS in and of itself prevents pregnancy or causes spontaneous abortion in and of itself is NONSENSE.
Cortisol levels SHOOT UP DURING PREGNANCY this is NORMAL, some women produce more than others, it is not simply a reaction to EXTERNAL stress. What this study implies is women whos levels shoot up higher seem to have a higher rate of miscarriage.. However it doesn’t prove external STRESS ends pregnancy, not even close. You are drawing conclusions that are not in the study or remotely implied by it.
Since Cortisol rise is NORMAL during all pregancies, and Miscarriage is incredibly common in early stages of pregnancy, the raised level can be nothing more than the bodies reacting to a natural deformity, or other problem with the pregnancy itself.
Your supposition that EXTERNAL factors such as stress in the womans life, are the cause of these higher levels and thuse the higher results, in a study involving 22 pregnancies, none of which I can tell suggested Rape, or even included the medical histories such as women suffering from PCOS, or other syndromes that are known to raise miscarriage risk.
Let alone other syndromes that affect cortisol production.
Again this study concludes “early pregnancy may sensitive to maternal stress during the placentation period” and suggests futher study should be done, but it doesn’t conclude anything about the nature of that stress OR even that its conclusive, only that more studies should be done, and since this study was published 6 years ago, I assume either other studies were not done, are currently underway or failed to replicate the results of this minor study of 22 women.
You really need to stop creating conclusions that are not there. Women’s bodies undergo stress during all pregnancies and Cortisol rises in all of them, Hell exercising raises your cotisol levels! Are you going to imply women are having miscarriages because they are going to the gym frequently? Implying from that that parental stress of rape will cause fewer pregnancies that willing sex is a conclusion not backed by ANY study or science.
You and others trying their darnedest to defend Akin’s incredibly ignorant statement continue to just follow his same path. What he claimed is NOT backed up by any science or study, and its woefully ignorant for him to have said it and even more so for those trying to create pretzel logic arguments trying to defend it.
Not buying it. Verbally denigrating rape victims is not “pro-family”. You can be 100% pro-Life without going so low.
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