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To: so_real
There is a "tipping point." The level where Missouri farm folk say ENOUGH! And rally to Akin's side. They HATE the east/west coast establishment telling them what to do. Problem is, we are short on time.

Akin is PCA. IMO, he's stayin'. Not saying I'm in favor of it, nor against it. Just sayin' he's stayin'...

351 posted on 08/23/2012 12:24:30 PM PDT by donozark (Old Indian saying:Follow the cigar smoke, find the fat man there.)
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To: donozark; so_real; Charles Henrickson; Inconvenient Truthteller; All
351 posted on Thu Aug 23 2012 14:24:30 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by donozark: “There is a "tipping point." The level where Missouri farm folk say ENOUGH! And rally to Akin's side. They HATE the east/west coast establishment telling them what to do. Problem is, we are short on time. Akin is PCA. IMO, he's stayin'. Not saying I'm in favor of it, nor against it. Just sayin' he's stayin'...”

314 posted on Thu Aug 23 2012 12:13:47 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by donozark: “ I fear you are correct. Akin has been surrounded by his PCA buds most of his life. Frankly, the RNC and his staff should have had a "coach" work with him before he walked the gauntlet of media shows. Obama is using John Kerry (playing Romney) to hone his debate skills. Why not bring in someone to help Akin BEFORE he screwed up so badly? Too late of course for any of that. May be too late for many things...”

206 posted on Thu Aug 23 2012 10:22:42 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by donozark: “ Charles:Akin should have pulled the pin prior to the 5PM Tuesday deadline. He did not. He is PCA. I know you understand the implications of THAT! IMO-Todd ain't goin' nowhere. And that from a Steelman supporter. Somewhat disappointed that so many here (even from MO) do not understand the procedure to get his name off the ballot. I've already posted so many times my fingers are sore... If he so chooses (to remove his name from the ballot) he will ultimately be subject to the whims of SOS Ms. Robin Carnahan. And THAT will not be pretty! ”

In case anyone wonders what the PCA reference means, here are two posts on what it means that Akin is a conservative, a graduate of Covenant Theological Seminary, and an elder in the Presbyterian Church in America:

Todd Akin is a PCA member and Covenant Seminary graduate
(Vanity)
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2921258/posts

Being a Pastor and Speaking Out in Today’s Culture
By Dr. Michael Milton, Chancellor, Reformed Theological Seminary
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2922254/posts

Personally, I'm a member of an even more conservative denomination, the Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church. The PCA is too broadly evangelical for me, but I'm the first one to say that both of our denominations have their problems.

To prove that Democrats can get some things right, go read Senator Webb's work on the Scots-Irish role on the settlement of the American frontier. One could make a good argument that Scottish blood makes Old School Presbyterians a pretty ornery bunch, and that's Webb's view. I personally think it has much more to do with a very high view of the role of the Old Testament that is shared by Calvinists whether they're Scots Presbyterians, English Puritans, Dutch Reformed, Swiss Reformed, Hungarian Reformed, Korean Presbyterians, or any of the other ethnic groups which have come to have large percentages of Calvinists either now or at some point in their history.

Too bad the Missouri Presbytery isn't one of the hard-core conservative presbyteries in the PCA. Akin might generate a lot of visitors to PCA churches when people realize the PCA is the Presbyterian equivalent of the Southern Baptist Convention -- a strongly conservative evangelical denomination that generally sticks to its guns about core beliefs. If he wins this election, I hope the PCA asks him to lead a seminar on Christian involvement in politics at the 2013 General Assembly, with all the media attention that will generate. Given the nonsense being done by the wacko liberals in the PC(USA), conservative Calvinists need some publicity, and Akin has overnight become the best-known Reformed political figure in the United States. Now we just need to be known for not eating baked feet for breakfast.

Fortunately most Calvinists are far more articulate than Akin was last weekend.

398 posted on 08/25/2012 9:23:54 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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