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To: GlockThe Vote

Ad hominem attack before noon, already?

I see a double standard. I see a good man like Akin brutalized by his own party, with your help. I see all of Romney's anti-conservative career blunders glossed over, with your help. If by "delusional" you mean "conservative instead of republican", then yes I am clearly delusional. But that would be your verbal blunder, like Akin's, using the wrong word for the wrong purpose.


191 posted on 08/23/2012 8:13:28 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: so_real

Call it what you want - Akin is taking us all down with him.


199 posted on 08/23/2012 8:19:23 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: so_real; GlockThe Vote

It’s not about conservative issues and non conservative issues. It’s about saying something stupid, and not saying something stupid.


203 posted on 08/23/2012 8:20:48 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: so_real; GlockThe Vote; txrangerette; justice14; Servant of the Cross; Just mythoughts; mlizzy; ...
191 posted on Thu Aug 23 2012 10:13:28 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by so_real: “I see a double standard. I see a good man like Akin brutalized by his own party, with your help. I see all of Romney's anti-conservative career blunders glossed over, with your help. If by “delusional” you mean “conservative instead of republican”, then yes I am clearly delusional. But that would be your verbal blunder, like Akin’s, using the wrong word for the wrong purpose.”

257 posted on Thu Aug 23 2012 11:12:41 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by chris37: “I can see the writing on the wall just fine. Republicans will not defend their own, and democrats can take out anyone they want, anytime they want by pushing cowardly republicans to do so for them. So, who’s next?”

I think so_real is right about a double standard, and chris37 is right about the potential consequences if Democrats figure out they can force Republicans out of races when a Democrat doing something similar would be supported by their own party. Look at all the feminists who swallowed hard and decided backing Bill Clinton was more important than defending an obviously manipulated intern.

My concern is this: we as conservatives say we are frustrated when the Republican leadership pushes RINOs on us. Now we have a strong social issues conservative who has a long track record of taking conservative positions in the state legislature and in Congress. Not only that, he clearly believes what he says, and isn't just talking the talk; he is himself a veteran, has several sons in the military, and has a strong track record on social, economic, and national defense conservative issues.

Now he said something really, really stupid, and the Republican leadership wants him to withdraw.

So we're going to fold our cards and go home and let the Republican establishment nominate a candidate who will probably be weak on social issues and may also be weak on economic and national defense issues? Show me that Tea Party fiery conservatives would put up with this if the national GOP tried this with somebody who wasn't a social issues conservative.

It wouldn't happen. Secular conservatives would be saying not only “No!” but adding some four letter words and lots of exclamation points to their “No!”

252 posted on Thu Aug 23 2012 11:03:05 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by soycd: “An even bigger LOL would be taking the whole GOP ticket down with this akin traitor. Anyone not trying to get akin out now is working for the democrat party.”

That is neither accurate nor fair.

What is both accurate and fair is that the lack of conservative support for Akin could easily become a self-fulfilling prediction.

I spent some time today with our county's local Republican political leadership who, somewhat to my surprise, tell me that most Republicans they talk to want Akin to withdraw.

I live in Missouri, my county which voted overwhelmingly for Santorum, and we have a strong social conservative presence in our local Republican leadership. These aren't RINOs or even moderate Republicans — the concern is that Akin has been so badly damaged that he can't recover.

I need to listen to that, and if the polls and fundraising numbers don't change quickly, Akin needs to be listening too.

402 posted on 08/27/2012 5:37:04 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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