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To: bunkerhill7

Hhh... your statement really demean not only the newly convert Christians but also Christ Himself. It basically says you don’t believe that the Holy Spirit works on many Indonesians that have been called to Him.

I’m not saying there’s no fake conversion, but a blanket statement such as yours really will only result in closing the door for evangelizing the Indonesians. BTW, the biggest denomination of Indonesian church is HKBP, a Lutheran church brought by German missionaries to Batak ethnic, particularly Nommensen. His works only showed their fruits in late 19th century, and early 20th century. Even the predominantly Christian regions (Maluku, Sulawesi Utara, Sumatra Utara, Papua, etc) adopted Christianity only in 18-19th century. If we follow your suggestion, only Fransiskus Xaverius Satiman, the earliest known Indonesian Christian, can be considered ‘legitimate’.

Di masa depan, mungkin lebih baik jika Anda menulis hal2 yg Anda kuasai. Tulisan seperti ini bisa membawa masalah tambahan untuk orang Kristen di Indonesia. Masalah mereka sudah cukup banyak. Tuhan berkati.


33 posted on 08/19/2012 3:57:53 PM PDT by paudio (Two stubborn facts remain: (1) Romney is better than 0bama, and (2) Romney is the Republican Nominee)
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To: paudio
Evidently you haven`t heard the lastest news from Aceh.

I have never met one genuine Indo muslim convert in all my 20 years dealing with thousands of Indonesian immigrants here from San Francisco to LA., in Toronto, in Sao Paulo, Amsterdam, Virginia, etc/., ...

Neither have my Indo friends here. Where are these converts? All in Indonesia?- Are they allowed to leave the country? Then if so they and their families are marked for retribution already by the muslim fanatics there. Actually it is just the opposite- young christian girls and their families are forced conversions in villages to become moslem or they will be harrassed, their houses burned, daughters raped etc. Are you living in LALA land?

I only met one muslim-to-catholic convert in all my life in USA- He was an Afghani who lasted only about 2 months here in SF bay area before he disappeared. There were no more Afghani converts after that.

I did meet and knew for several years an Indo Catholic priest whose father was muslim and mother was catholic. But none of the parishoners trusted him one inch, period. I never said that the Holy Spirit does not work, - I only said beware the wolf in sheep`s clothing.

"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves (Matt. 7:15).

34 posted on 08/19/2012 4:42:26 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (2,000,000 conversions? where??)
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