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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: is_is

What is your plan for getting a conservative into POTUS in 2016 if Romney wins? Unseating a sitting republican? Tell conservatives to wait 4 more years?


5,121 posted on 08/18/2012 11:07:37 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: fabian

Abortionists promote, like, make money and don’t see wrong in abortion. They are extreme leftists too.
***You just described Romney.


5,122 posted on 08/18/2012 11:09:00 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: wmfights

Then you admit it. You have no plan to install a conservative POTUS until 2020. Unless Romney loses. For this year, no matter who wins, conservatism loses. But for 2016 if Romney wins, conservatism loses again. Looking at 2016 from viewpoint of today, it is proven that to vote for a librul is harmful to conservatism. The best choice for conservatism is to vote for a conservative.


5,124 posted on 08/18/2012 11:13:55 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: sf4dubya
So apparently you have an issue with the usage of the word "identity."

I responded to YOUR use of identity in my post.

YOU SAID: I want the anti Mormon doctrine posts off political threads and in the religion forum. I certainly did not post those posts filled with anti-Mormon, Christian identity issue tripe...

Keep trying to cover up your used cat litter with CYA post after post...you can't unsay it!

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5,125 posted on 08/18/2012 11:14:55 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: fabian

If you’re gonna vote for a man because he sounds sincere then vote for Obama. He’s much better at it. It would be “quite unchristian of you” not to do so.


5,126 posted on 08/18/2012 11:15:43 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: sf4dubya

Absolutely! You seem to have a big focus on money. So?


5,127 posted on 08/18/2012 11:17:51 AM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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To: wmfights

I do believe that Romney will seek to replace it with market driven solutions, that’s what the Ryan pick is all about.
***Romney wrote RomneyCare and is proud of it, so for you to believe he’ll install something other than that is in direct contradiction to what you write — “You’ve run through a list of things that Romney says he will do and then ask if I believe he will do them. The answer is YES! “

We have a choice between a northeast moderate
***Liberal, not moderate. For you to call him moderate is a redefining of the terms. He’s more librul than Bill Clinton.

and a radical socialist. I was pulling for Perry, but that didn’t work out. I’ll vote for the moderate
***Liberal

with the conservative VP. If we don’t end obamacare now by 2016 it will be to late.
***It is already too late. Obamacare is based on Romneycare.

Let me give you one thing to chew on. Conservatives haven’t had a conservative POTUS since Reagan. The primary system is stacked against conservatives and until that’s reformed the odds are stacked against us. If Ryan is VP we have a good shot down the road.
***If Rumnuts win, maybe in 2020. But if Rumnuts loses, we have a shot in 2016. Which is the better choice for conservatism, having a chance for 2016 or not having a chance?


5,128 posted on 08/18/2012 11:22:04 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: sf4dubya

Oh and BTW, over half of those posts have nothing to do with Mormonism, but they ARE in the religion forum. There are several other threads I’ve posted that are Utah news - it isn’t MY fault that Utah news usually revolves around Mormonism - yes even the political news.


5,129 posted on 08/18/2012 11:22:16 AM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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To: wmfights

I’m left with a moderate Pub
***Liberal Pub. A lying, baby-killing gun-grabbing statist with an R besides his name.


5,130 posted on 08/18/2012 11:24:05 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
With dishonor, guilt and self loathing...

No able to look my innocent grandchildren in the face...

and no longer a righteous stand with my God...

How would that be “living” ???

TN, it's incredible to witness the levels of self-deception to which the human mind is capable. Just look at all the JoePa supporters still up in State College. All it takes is a little bit of compartmentalization, and one can excuse just about any horrendous bit of activity, as long as it pushes towards some imagined goal.

5,131 posted on 08/18/2012 11:25:47 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: wmfights

One thing to consider is how these votes will affect us down the road. How will America look with 4 more tears of obama vs. Romney.
***If Rumnuts wins, we won’t have a chance at installing a conservative for POTUS until 2020, after 8 years of damage that a CINO causes. If he loses, we have a chance at installing a conservative for POTUS in 2016. It’s better for conservatism to have that chance sooner.


5,132 posted on 08/18/2012 11:26:08 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: greyfoxx39

You’re probably right. I used to be though.


5,133 posted on 08/18/2012 11:26:52 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: metmom

Obviously, her purpose is to be a troll on this thread. If she was SO concerned about religious bigotry on FR, she would have been logging onto those mormon threads for years. But nope, not the case. She’s just a simple liar.


5,134 posted on 08/18/2012 11:28:46 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: John W

Nothing has changed here since July of 1999.


5,136 posted on 08/18/2012 11:31:20 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: MarkBsnr

Want to see me do it?

Sure. Go for it.

***Just read some of her posts on this thread. She’s been pulling tons of stuff out of context, continually. She’s a lying troll. No reason to encourage her to continue doing it.


5,137 posted on 08/18/2012 11:35:30 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo; metmom
But nope, not the case. She’s just a simple liar.

I'm seeing a whole LOT of mormon defense tactics, including the lies, attempts at distraction and accusations of other FReepers having ties to extremist groups like Christian Identity...right now, she is frantically digging to cover up her own nasty used cat litter...for some reason she thinks we will run away from our past.

5,138 posted on 08/18/2012 11:35:36 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: trebb

“No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money/mammon”.


5,139 posted on 08/18/2012 11:36:10 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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