Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.
But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.
And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.
And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.
That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.
Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.
You're just an outright "mistaker."
I didn't post the thread, GF did. It's right here for all to see: Exclusive: Brigham Young’s Great-Great-Granddaughter on Mormonism and Mitt Romney
It had many comments and it was deleted, poof, gone, down the rabbit hole. I have screenshots of the entire thread. If you didn’t ask to have it deleted then many here were mistaken because it said thread asked to be deleted by poster.
Again, I wasn't the poster...anybody clicking on the link above can read plain English. If you, as you claim, "have screenshots of the entire thread" -- and if you can read plain English, then you are either (a) the most ignorant reader in the world; or (b) a repetitive liar.
I didn't have any power to delete the thread; the original thread-poster did. And, apparently, since the thread can be accessed again, it appears somebody changed their mind about that.
ALL: Now you know the level of "credibility" of this poster...he/she can even keep basic facts straight. Do not trust a single thing he/she says.
When someone’s religion is attacked in unrelated areas is when I will get involved.
***Re read JimRob’s post. It is not an attack on anyone’s religion. No need for your involvement.
I... hopefully contributed to the end of it so people think twice before launching an all out campaign on here.
***No, you basically contributed to the maximum amount of discord that could have been sown on one thread among conservatives. Obama thanks you for your efforts.
I was not being at all cavalier. I mean every word of it. It will be needed in earnest if Zero gets back in again.
That is my goal, to keep him out. Other goal, to get conservatives elected at the local level. Thank God, we have a Tea Party U.S. Rep. for our area. It’s a breath of fresh air.
Third goal, not possible at the moment, meet one on one with people in my area to bring about conservative influence, so others will go and tell and build up conservative numbers.
This is the only way to effect long-lasting change, building from the ground up.
Methinks that super-awesome-double-secret-probation "screen shot" collection of my purported pro-abortion, anti-gun, etc, postings -- all of which (somehow) miraculously escaped the combined attention of both JimRob AND all the FR mods, simultaneously, won't be arriving any time in the foreseeable future, either. Bummer.
ALL: Now you know the level of "credibility" of this poster...he/she can even keep basic facts straight. Do not trust a single thing he/she says.
Kinda figured. ;)
Lets give this one last attempt.
Do you end homosexual power by empowering homosexuals?
Do you win a war by arming the enemy you are fighting?
Do you stop bigotry by making bigoted statements?
Do you end abortion by electing a man good with ROE as settled law?
Do you support the 2A by electing a gun grabber with a record of gun grabbing?
If you can answer any of these ‘Yes’ then we have nothing further to discuss. If you cannot, your vote for Romney is pure stupidity.
...but you know that already.
What really galls you is that we dare to accept and call Jesus Christ our Savior when you have judged and condemned us already as non-Christian...or as you just decided to put it now, anti-Christian.
For you to call me anti-Christian when I sincerely and humbly profess Jesus Christ, born in Bethlehem of the Virgin Mary, taken to Egypt to escape Herod, raised in Nazareth as the step-son of a carpenter, and who spent three years in Judea teaching His gospel, choosing His deisciples and Apostles, performing miracles, turning water to wine, feeding thousands with a few loaves of bread, healing the sick, raising the dead, and ultimately suffering in the garden and on the cross for us all, to atone for our sins, to overcome death and be raised the third day...I say, if I profess that as my sincere witness and you call me anti-Christian, then there is nothing you will not strain at, and wrest and twist to try to force things to be your own way.
I pray for you Elsie, that your own love and profession of Christ Jesus and what he taught about judging others and loving others as you yourself would be loved will win out...so that you can accept others, who are your allies in Christ against the enemies we face in this nation...who are as believing in and loving of Christ every bit as much as you are, even if our interpretations of the trinity and Godhead, of how Christ organized His church (even though it it plainly stated in the Bible in the Hew testament), and what happens to us after death in His kingdom are different.
In the end, the core, essential belief is that Jesus Christ, the Son of the living God, atoned for our sins and provides the only path to salvation as our Savior. That we must accept Him and take His name upon us and then try with all of our heart to live accordingly. If we do that...each of us...in the end He will show us what the other details are...and you know what? If our love for Him is true, we will each accept it, and follow Him, even if we find that we were wrong in this or that detail. It simply will not matter at that point.
I think he took the morality of his assless chaps and went to TBL so as to continue the prideful parade march of the ‘Romney Conservative”.;)
Do you spend a lot of your freerepublic time defending Islam, and Scientology, and the Hare Krishas?
He demonstrably "reached the end of the thread" -- as plainly demonstrated by his last response to you -- over half an hour ago... and, still: I await with bated breath the grand unveiling of "KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle: THE COLLECTED LIBERAL WORKS AND WHIMSIES!!!" ;)
When a particular faith is singled out and treated differently than any other faith, it is under attack.
***You need to come up to speed on the definition of ‘cult’. Scientology, Mormonism, Jehovah’s Witnesses, those come to mind as cults. They do not qualify as faiths. And this cult wasn’t particularly singled out, anyways. It was just an announcement about the mods as it pertained to mormonism.
Here’s my napkin sketch of what qualifies as a cult in christianity: Do they accept that Jesus was GOD Himself (Yes, Jehovah God)? Pretty simple. If they deny the deity of Christ, they deny Who Christ is.
Are there cults that try to attach to your jewish faith?
Your Obama thing is absolutely ridiculous. Obama thanks those posters who attacked others over the basis of their religion,
***You have not been paying attention. The basis of the mormon cult has been under intense scrutiny for several years here on FR. Before Obama even came along.
so they can label us a bunch of bigots (nothing new there, but no need to publicly do it).
***Again, you have not been paying attention. The leftists have been attacking christianity relentlessly in their own form of antichristian bigotry. That’s one reason why Romnuts got a pass from the media, because they wanted to see this schism between a cult and mainstream christianity develop.
Is the thread of the link that was posted in post 2461, the one you were referring to in your post 2255?
Let’s see a sample of your intended opus as the first test.
So you lied, you do not go to bat for all the religions which are criticized here, only Mormonism and Judaism, since the Sikh religion never is.
You don’t defend Islam, or Scientology, and you attack Christians.
The only two religions you go crazy in defense of, is the anti-Christian religion, Mormonism, and Judaism.
I never ever in my life heard of Christians remotely referring to Judiasm as a cult. I’ll bow out now. Please do not contact me or reply to any of my posts here again.
***I’ve never in my life ever heard of judaism being christian. Mormonism claims to be christian, but denies the deity of Christ. So do the Jehovah’s Witnesses. Scientology — well I don’t really know (I actually meant Christian Science). But Christian Science, yes, they claim to be christian as well and deny the deity of Christ. Judaism does not claim to be christian.
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