Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.
But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.
And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.
And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.
That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.
Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.
FR, party of six? Your table is ready. I’m your new server. Everything is wide open so you can post to your hearts’ content.
I don’t care what you believe about their doctrine, the people of the Mormon faith are peaceful and law-abiding. Therefore, I have no problem with them.
Are people being zotted for being Mormons? If not, then where is the persecution? Free speech and freedom of religion means everyone is free to say if they think someone else's religion is a crock of crap. If people are too wimpy to take the criticism, then maybe they should ask themselves why their confidence level in their own religion is so low. People don't need to be non-peaceful for me to publically explain to others why their religion is bogus garbage and should not be believed. Islam, Mormonism, Scientology would be a few goofy, phony religions that meet that standard.
Did you miss the (short) bus? I thought you were leaving? Well Romney says lotsa stuff he didn’t mean so I guess you follow his example perfectly.
So are you thinking MR is conservative? Y/N?
Cool. Let’s kick some liberals out of office. :)
Jeff Head is a good man and a real conservative.
He is a damn morman and should be ostracized solely because of that. We here at FR just keep him around to keep up appearances don’t cha know. /sarc off.
We lost *a lot* of it.
***Then the difference between “a lot of it” and complete destruction is the measure of irrationality.
Hoover was in place when the last collapse happened. It damaged republicanism for many years. If the same level of collapse were inevitable, then I would wish the disaster on a democrat like zer0bama. Would you?
I feel exactly the same way and anyone can check my past posts and see that I was for Sarah, she chose not to run, then Cain, he dropped out, then Newt. I would have been fine with Perry or Santorum, but I really don’t like Santoruum that much and he has zero chance to win. I want the Commie administration out and I am doing everything I can to make it happen including voting for R&R.
That’s the type of question a dishonest person asks, sort of along the lines of “did you stop beating your wife yet”? True conservatives don’t use logical fallacies to try to ‘win’ their arguments.
Since you claim to be voting for a conservative for president, who is it and what’s his chances of getting elected?
How is that a strawman fallacy? How is it asinine? You said it DIRECTLY. You’re losing it, dude.
You appear to have a reading comprehension problem Chumlee. It doesn't logically follow that I "believe" Romney just because I pointed out that Romney "now claims" to be pro life.
For the skatey-eighth time now...
Romney was a liberal governor of Mass. Romney over the last five or six years has promised conservatism. Obama on the other hand has been, and promises to be from this point forward, a Marxist.
I believe Romney is most likely lying but it is not a certainty that he is.
I know Obama has been and will continue to be a Marxist.
No, you promote Romney. Romney is a liberal.
So are you saying he is not? If you say he’s not liberal what is he? A conservative? With his record?
The only dishonesty here is yours. I understand the shame in supporting a lib but you can’t vote lib and be conservative. Period. Feel free to delude yourself otherwise but reality doesn’t care.
I’d take that as a compliment. But the nutcases around here think this man at Tienanmen is the nutcase.
Un-freakin-believable.
"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is.
ansel12, I have had a long day and I am tired. I am not up to a debate/fight. I am responding only because I didn’t want you to think that I had ignored you.
But I will say this... I have never known Jeff to lie. I do not know the context of the post you are referring to and I won’t be going through over 2000 posts to find it.
Now, I didn’t say that I agree with everything he may say or believe in, but I do see him as a solid conservative, a patriot and country loving man. I don’t care about him being a Mormon, because I don’t care about any of that kind of stuff. I am not pro-morman and I am not anti-mormon.... I just don’t give a hoot.
Oops... I wrote more than I intended.
Good night....
You failed, and now those of us in battleground states have to do all the heavy lifting while you Internet cowboys get sit back and bitch and moan about your values while the Republic burns to the ground via a Marxist ruling by executive order, asking for another four years to get it right.
HELL NO!
Amen sf4dubya! I think people like Jim (and I) who live in very solid blue states have no right to lecture those in red states or purple states about not voting for Romney.
Those of us in solid blue states have the luxury of a protest vote or a strategic vote if we wish but we have no right to tell those who feel they have no choice but to vote for Romney (because they live in a red or purple state and need to give ABO every electoral vote possible) that they are RINO's or less conservative than other folks.
Nice job. I saved this entire thread. If I have time I am going to break it down. I wonder how many left and won’t return. I was very sad to see Maggie leave. She is fun and added interest to FR. I noticed several other long time members said see ya. I said see ya to myself and just stopped posting. I wish I had just stayed away.
That man stood for what he believed in. On Principle. He didn’t cave in to the will of his party or the pressure of their people.
I fully support that.
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