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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: Syncro

I doubt JimRob intended that this thread should turn into a discussion of mormonism and Romney and all that garbage. It was probably a mistake. He’s too busy and put that one last note in so that he wouldn’t have to post another thread just for it.

Think of how much saner this thread would have been if that last paragraph were posted to the religion forum.


2,142 posted on 08/12/2012 6:55:59 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: kevao
But those of us in toss-up states don’t have that luxury. And for those of us in toss-up states who do not believe the country will survive four more years of Obama, to vote for anyone other than Romney would not be rational.

Well, this is where the Romney crowd should have been all Spring. Essentially stating what you've said here...

The closest thing you'd ever get to a "compromise" would be for the Romney supporters to take the initiative to tell the Blue States to vote ABOAR (Anybody But Obama And Romney)...

...And then more quietly -- at least among FREEPer circles -- to vote ABOAR in red states (not necessarily broadcasting it for ALL voters in red states)...knowing that Obama could ne'er take these states.

If Goode & Hoefling took a LOT more votes in all but the swing states, that would send a solid message to the GoP-e.

But I tho I've brought this up countless times over the past 3 months, I can't get any traction from people who openly concede they are pragmatic utilitarian political relativists.

Where's their pragmatism in ceding those blue states that they know Romney can't win?

Where's their pragmatism in (more quietly -- at least among their "circle") of ceding those red states that they know Obama can't win?

They wouldn't have possibly gotten more "vote Romney" traction if the entire focus would have been placed on the swing states ONLY.

2,144 posted on 08/12/2012 6:58:43 PM PDT by Colofornian (Why don't you 'birthers' ask Mitt about his 'spirit-birth' on planet near Kolob? Hypocrisy @ work?)
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To: John W

Ditto!


2,145 posted on 08/12/2012 6:58:43 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. (PursuingLiberty.com))
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To: sf4dubya

Jim has done pretty muchthat every single election.
***Provide links, please.


2,147 posted on 08/12/2012 7:00:25 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Heartless, yes.... but I be a heartless man.


2,148 posted on 08/12/2012 7:00:31 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: sf4dubya; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

“Stop demogoging those of us who have to do the hard work in this election to get the Marxist out, and conservatives in.”

Voting for Romney is not hard work, it is being a surreneder monkey to the GOP establishment and Romeny’s liberalism.


2,149 posted on 08/12/2012 7:02:00 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Gator113

pretty much that simple,vote them out.Don’t hate the ememy(know them),just get rid of them.That’s what I was taught.


2,150 posted on 08/12/2012 7:02:08 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes
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To: sf4dubya
Blame my iPad.

Your iPad somehow forces you to use words incorrectly? And/or "auto corrects" words into INcorrect spellings...?

Ooooooooooooookay.

2,151 posted on 08/12/2012 7:02:45 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: sf4dubya

“... for one day the horde may come for you.”

Sort of like the Taliban.

Some of the folks around here sound like they’re only a step or two away from unsheathing the sword, and demanding that you show your neck.

That’s not very Christian-like of them.


2,152 posted on 08/12/2012 7:04:47 PM PDT by moovova
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To: mojitojoe

Thanks, the whole thing has descended into parody. “Conservatives” not all in on getting the marxist kenyan out of the White House. They couldn’t dream this stuff up in Hollyweird.


2,153 posted on 08/12/2012 7:05:10 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

These fanatics are doing the work of Axelrod, Obama, jarrett that even the MSM can’t do on it’s own.


2,156 posted on 08/12/2012 7:06:38 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; sf4dubya

Aside from his misspelling(s), did you have any glimmer of understanding of his meaning. Or are you so spelling challenged that you require perfection in spelling order to converse? If so, it’s quite a feat since studies have shown that even when vowels were intentionally omitted from words, almost all people of at least average intelligence were still able to decipher the words and comprehend the paragraph.


2,157 posted on 08/12/2012 7:08:32 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: sf4dubya

while others refuse to vote for these conservatives because they are of a different religion than them.
***Reading this thread, I do not think you have made such a case at all.


2,158 posted on 08/12/2012 7:10:24 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Ben Bolt; Jim Robinson
every sucker you have donating has a fractional ownership

Exactly the same way my regular purchases at Taco Bell grant me a "fractional ownership" of said franchise.

Dolt.

you twisted piece of sh-t.

... but JIM's the "hater." /s

2,159 posted on 08/12/2012 7:10:31 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: nicmarlo
did you have any glimmer of understanding of his meaning.

D-e-m-a-g-o-g-u-i-n-g -- the word central to said "meaning" -- was used incorrectly, thereby rendering it moot.

Bang your sippy cup on the high chair tray twice, if any of this is sinking in for you.

2,160 posted on 08/12/2012 7:14:00 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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