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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: nicmarlo
This one is better: Photobucket
2,041 posted on 08/12/2012 5:27:58 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Gluteus Maximus; EternalVigilance

that “personal attacks” weren’t allowed.
***It gets confusing at times, doesn’t it?

I really have no party.
***And neither does Free Republic. This is a conservative website, not a republican website. It’s amazing how many freepers simply do not know that.

Chiang Kai Shek famously said that “the Japanese are a disease of the skin, the (Chinese) Communists are a disease of the heart.” And he was right. The Japanese occupation was doomed from the get-go, because they were foreigners, and over time China always got rid of its foreign occupiers. But that’s not true for an internal enemy like the Chicoms. It’s the same here. We conservatives need to WAKE UP
***That’s the rub. Free Republic seems to have been infiltrated by CINOs.

and realize that Karl Rove (”the GOP is the party of Big Government”), Mitt Romney and all that they represent, are our most lethal enemy.
***I’d rather fight someone in front of me than get stabbed in the back by an internal betrayer.

The really frustrating thing for me the past 20 years was pitiful spectacle of my fellow conservatives panting around the GOP table waiting for the Country Club gang to throw them some scraps.
***Looking at 2016, if Romney wins we would need to try to unseat a sitting republican president in the primaries. The ABO crowd seem to think this is possible, though it’s never been done.

We need a full-on purge of the Party.
***And possibly, Free Republic. On the original bugzapper thread, JimRob said that if tootyfruityrudy would become the nominee, there would be a major purge of FR to get rid of all the RINOs. Perhaps the same thing needs to happen now that Romnuts is the apparent nominee.

And if it means four more years fighting the Battle of the Wilderness, then so be it.
***We started FR in the wilderness. We can do it again.

I can only speak for myself. But I note that Jim Robinson made it very, very clear for years now that he would never support Romney. The Country Club Set ignored the warning. Now we conservatives need to make good on the threat, or lose all credibility within the GOP.
***Again you are saying, “we conservatives”. The problem I see is that there really aren’t that many conservatives posting on FR. When I scratch the surface of antagonists on FR, I find CINOs. Lots of CINOs.

It would be far better for Obama to win, at least in the long run.
***I see your courage in putting out that statement. No matter what happens in this election, conservatism lost. Maybe Ryan is a bone thrown to conservatives, but you can’t survive on bones.

I’m voting Libertarian for President, GOP for all others, providing that they’re conservatives.
***I recently decided to vote for fellow Freeper Tom Hoefling/Eternal Vigilance. At least he pings us once in a while. I have no doubts about his conservatism.


2,042 posted on 08/12/2012 5:28:09 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Springfield Reformer
The standard line by a lot of people here is that they are both Marxists, I find that an insane line of thinking.

Your answer implied that line, and it got my response.

If you didn't imply that (and I think you may have), then disregard it.

2,043 posted on 08/12/2012 5:28:58 PM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt; the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: montanajoe; reasonisfaith

Much more..take the SC. If O is reelected he may get to replace one liberal Ginsburg, with a liberal. If Romney is elected he will likely get to replace Scalia and Kennedy with liberals.

Pleased to see long term thinking!


2,044 posted on 08/12/2012 5:29:37 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: mojitojoe; Las Vegas Ron
It’s disgusting and embarrassing because there are nice freepers on here that ate Mormons

Yup, I ate a couple of 'em yesterday

: > )

2,045 posted on 08/12/2012 5:30:06 PM PDT by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: nicmarlo

Here is a link to a great album I found with lots of pics in folders and it’s public, not private, you can save the photos and link to them to post here.

s780.photobucket.com/albums/yy90/aces3700


2,046 posted on 08/12/2012 5:30:21 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
“Romney will have an opposition Press from day 1. He will be challenged like he had never been challenged”

Ah where is this opposition going to come from..the do nothing congress..good luck with that...

On then other hand the Dims and RINO’s will be more than happy to help their guy.

2,047 posted on 08/12/2012 5:31:07 PM PDT by montanajoe (Blame Flame Shame or Beg I won't vote for R/R)
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To: Jim Robinson

JimRob, could you please put a leash on some of the posters? It is getting ridiculous in here, and I think a few need a diaper change (possible rash too :/)

I would have thought that people would have taken your (VERY DIRECT) hints over the past few weeks, but they are just getting more vicious :p

Thank you ;^)


2,048 posted on 08/12/2012 5:31:50 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist, or Patriot)
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To: mojitojoe
This one is better:

wth? What's he doing in that one??

(thanks for the url for the pics)

2,049 posted on 08/12/2012 5:32:10 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: montanajoe

Supreme Court nominees these days have about a 50% chance of fulfilling expectations vs fulfilling the opposite. (John Roberts, anyone?)

Obama has tried his best to dismantle our country, but has been restrained by the need to be reelected.

A lame duck Obama is an unrestrained Stalinist.

A first term Romney is a liberal who still loves his country.


2,050 posted on 08/12/2012 5:32:26 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Photobucket
2,051 posted on 08/12/2012 5:32:29 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: CWSNTEXAS

Colorfornian doesn’t care about the Republican party or the conservative movement.
***How did you get into the position where you can read his motives? I find his commentary to be quite intelligent.

He/she/it is a plant- here to spread bigotry and anti-Mormon rhetoric to make true Christian Conservatives look like idiots.
***I sincerely doubt that you have the spiritual wherewithal to look after “true Christian Conservatives”. Do you acknowledge that Jesus is God-Jehovah?

Tell us COLORFORNIAN..... Do you support the candidacy of Dean Heller-
***Like humblegunner said, I never heard of the mutt. So maybe your litmus test is a bit soggy.


2,052 posted on 08/12/2012 5:32:48 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: sf4dubya

Thank you for clarifying.


2,053 posted on 08/12/2012 5:33:59 PM PDT by Third Person (A man's got to know his limitations.)
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To: montanajoe

You may (or may not) have misjudged Romney.

I tentatively believe you have, pending further feedback.

If the GOP wins a majority in the coming elections, in the Senate also - look for serious modifications to business in DC.

I am cautiously optimistic. If not, there’s always Palin in 2016. Either way is good.

:D


2,054 posted on 08/12/2012 5:35:29 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: sf4dubya; Elsie

This site needs to purge the non-conservatives.
***I would not be surprised to find you among the purged in purgatory.


2,055 posted on 08/12/2012 5:36:16 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: sf4dubya; Elsie

This site needs to purge the non-conservatives.
***I would not be surprised to find you among the purged in purgatory,SF4W.


2,056 posted on 08/12/2012 5:36:57 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

A most eloquent statement, Kent!


2,058 posted on 08/12/2012 5:37:31 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
PhotobucketPhotobucket
2,059 posted on 08/12/2012 5:37:40 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Kevmo
This is a conservative website, not a republican website. It’s amazing how many freepers simply do not know that.

... and yet, simultaneously claim (somehow) to rightfully wield some sort of "veto" authority over the principled, literally-from-Day-One stance of this site's founder and owner, whenever/wherever a Republican candidate for office might be concerned. Some "conservatives," huh...?

I can only speak for myself. But I note that Jim Robinson made it very, very clear for years now that he would never support Romney. The Country Club Set ignored the warning.

Yup.

Oh, well. "Nothing teaches like experience," they say.

2,060 posted on 08/12/2012 5:38:11 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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