Posted on 08/06/2012 4:27:26 PM PDT by neverdem
Favor is fickle, and hope and change was easier to promise than deliver on.
A new Gallup poll shows that nearly 10 percent of voters who supported Barack Obama during his 2008 run have decamped and will be supporting Republican challenger Mitt Romney in this next election. At nine percent, the rate of Obama 08 defectors is nearly double the five percent of former McCain 08 supporters who now say theyll cast a vote for Obama.
Partly loyalty is higher in the Republican camp too, with 92 percent of former McCain supporters saying theyre sticking with the red ticket, while only 86 percent of Obamas 2008 base say theyre staying true.
The poll surveyed more than 2,000 registered voters who punched a ballot in 2008.
Now for some number play: if we make the broad assumption that the poll data is representative of the general population and do some extrapolation, tallying nine percent of 69,456,897 (Obamas 2008 vote count) and subtracting five percent of John McCains 59,934,814 votes, we end up with a potential 3.25 million more votes for Romney than McCain had four years ago. Its nothing concrete, but its becoming clear that election 2012 will be a far different race than 2008 was.
Oh that’s great news! I have family down in Broward County and everytime I visit it’s like leaving OZ.
Oh that’s great news! I have family down in Broward County and everytime I visit it’s like leaving OZ.
What I WANT is a pony, always have.
What I want, what you want, are both of zero significance. We're guaranteed to have a liberal agenda-pushing guy in the White House. You are going to vote for your "new and improved" version of liberal agenda-pushing guy because you are afraid of Obama.
I am going to vote for a plurality because the last two times a liberal president was elected on a plurality, conservatives were so empowered that they forced him to move right with the Republican Revolution, and then impeached him.
I don't want either one of the bastards, but what I want is irrelevant. I'm voting the only way I can to weaken whichever one wins and to deprive him of a popular vote mandate. You're voting to specifically empower one of them, and you're risking being part of a landslide popular mandate for that liberal. That's what it boils down to.
It would be an interesting exercise to go back to the Bush Era on FR and see just how many of the ABOers were relentlessly mocking the abject stupidity of the left for screaming “ANYBODY BUT BUSH!”
I’ll bet that of the Freepers currently howling “ABO!”, a good number were right there railing on them.
Oh...but now the shoe is on the other foot. Suddenly they have adopted the exact same mindset.
Bush/Obama will destroy America? Check.
And the ones that wern’t there then, well, it should make them feel good to have adopted the very mindset that every conservative once took as sheer insanity.
Now it is 100% true that the left was thoroughly railed in word, graphics and every other form of communication here and elsewhere. Radio guys did it. TV guys did it. Politicians did it.
But now, suddenly, the ‘right’ finds itself adopting the very same mindset of the very same people they thought insane.
And they are PROUD of it.
Well, let them be proud. I also expect them to keep their mouths shut when the man who their votes elected presidentm does not succumb to the ‘HopeandChange’ of a congress unwilling to rein him in. Because if all the ABOers in the country united behind ANY conservative, it’s a mathimatical certainty that person would win.
That they won’t is out of fear they will do so alone and thus lose. And I defy them to cite fear resulting in a positive political outcome.
They sure as hell cannot point to the genesis of their ABO crusade - IE the Left and Obama. Look what their ‘fear’ of rePalin resulted in.
re: That means mathematically that your lack of vote will make the winner (guaranteed to be a liberal either way) appear that much more supported by percentage of popular vote total; if, instead of declining, you had voted third party, it would have been counted among the plurality and weakened the winner’s victory percentage.
Last time there were about 129 million votes cast. My vote counts for 1/129,000,000. I am pretty sure that is not statistically significant. But I am sure that Romney has commented on such statistics and we will be pointed to the fallacy of his position.
You don't need to participate in any "othuggo love fest" -- with guys like you supporting "Republicans" like Romney, who needs "Team Soetoro"?
Seeing as how Obama is so loathed that he's losing supporters in drove and they are moving to Romney, odds are about as good as they get that voting third party instead of voting for Romney, would prevent either liberal from getting a popular mandate and instead give him a plurality, which would -- as it did with Clinton both times -- strengthen conservatives' ability to oppose and dominate him.
Your tagline is false advertising. Mine, on the other hand, is truth.
“I really miss Georges powerful voice. He had me in studio three times. He warned us about illegal immigration 40 years ago.”
Yes, me too. I would go down and watch his show through the windows. I loved your lyrics.
Noth9ng to debate pal. I’m voting to kick the Kenyan’s a$$ out. I’m voting for Romney as are all of my friends and family. So in November, one of us will be happy. You if obastard wins, me if he doesn’t.
I’m voting for Romney and there is nothing anyone can say to change my mind. Why do you keep bring JR up in this conversation? I don’t care who he votes for and he doesn’t tell me who to vote for and I doubt he would. If he did, I would still vote to get the Marxist homo.. Barry out.
Amen, Brother FReeper. And looking at the article that originated this thread, if all the ABOers in the country voted third party even if for different candidates, it's nearly a mathematical certainty that whoever won, Obama or Romney, would have such a piss-poor plurality that he'd go into office facing an America where nearly two in three voters voted for somebody else. A conservative Congress could own him.
Yep -- ABO is as abjectly short-sighted as the left's "Anybody but Bush" mantra.
You have 2 choices and ONLY two, but you know that. It’s crystal clear you are fine with 4 more years of fag boy. No thanks. Voting for Romney. I might even start donating and campaigning for him just to piss you off. I don’t like him but I sure don’t hate him with ever fiber of my being, so that makes my choice easy. Sadly, you hate Romney as much as I hate Osh&thead.
a landslide
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WOOHOO, God I sure hope so.
When you can’t debate the ideas, post a silly picture. Again.
Wow, great news. There is one goal on my mind: Run Obama out of Washington DC on election day.
One thing is certain: with warts and all, Romney is better than Obama. And for now, that looks great and it is good enough for me.
I hope all those people who have lost their jobs in the last few years think about that, and I further hope that those who still have jobs realize that 4 more years of Obama is a detriment and a genuine danger to anyones stability in the workforce.
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