/johnny
At least one, that I can think of.
In Vietnam, after a “bombing pause”, first mission headed North got a BVR kill because it could be known for certain that the target was not friendly.
I guess I’ve kind of made your point, haven’t I? ;-P
Vietnam/Rolling Thunder, Yom Kippur War and Beaaa Valley
we need the NOT THIS AGAIN pic. sounds like the ‘60s with the F-4C all missile no guns. as for BVR hell ROE says you can’t even shoot at a bad guy until he fires first. i can see iran sending up attack aircraft and put some civilian passenger planes in the mix. we shoot BVR in self defense and shoot a few of them down in the mix they get propaganda. we wait gor visual and it could be too late.
More than you would think. What concerns me is in a REAL war our city’s and manufacturing base will be crippled, or at the very least our supply lines will be strenuous at best.
Its going to be a lot harder to produce & distribute theses very complex missile systems, assuming we could ever build enough of them to take down an air-force more than 5 times more numerous than our own.