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To: RinaseaofDs

Actually, the Russkis had better tanks than the Germans, such as the KV-12 and the T-34. The German tank pitted against the T-34 was the PKW-III with a 37mm or 50mm main gun. They had to change the role of the PKW-IV and equip it with a “long” 75mm to match it.

The PKW-V Panther was an attempt to copy the T-34 but Germans screwed it up by making it over complicated. The T-34-85 was probably the best tank of the war, in terms of numbers and capabilities.

What the Germans had was a DOCTRINE that used tanks in a more effective way than any of of their opponents, not to mention a radio transceiver in every tank (In Soviet tanks, only the platoon leader had a transceiver - the rest had receivers only, if they had radios...). They were able mass their firepower against the “decisive point” better than anyone else. The Russians eventually put an end to this with superior quantities of equipment. German fuel shortages did not help, either.


37 posted on 07/31/2012 10:02:50 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Little Ray

In January 1941 the Soviets had over 23,000 tanks.

By December they had slightly less than 6,000.

The Germans completely annihilated the Soviets during Barbarossa and it would take awhile to recover.


44 posted on 07/31/2012 10:18:08 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: Little Ray

Thanks for the color! All interesting bits of history.


60 posted on 07/31/2012 11:14:48 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: Little Ray
There were other issues. The Tiger tanks, and worse King Tiger tanks, were too heavy for their transmissions. The Germans over-engineered the Panthers with an aluminum aircraft-type engine, which was hard to build or maintain. Worse (for them), they used slave labor to build these. The slave labor kept sabotaging them.

The T-35 with the 85mm cannon was a great tank. I believe that they were actually in combat in the 1980s in Africa.
84 posted on 10/17/2012 2:22:39 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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