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Bowing low to the People of the Gun (pathetic barf alert)
suntimes.com ^ | 29 July, 2012 | LAURA WASHINGTON

Posted on 07/30/2012 7:04:26 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: SampleMan
If you hold the stock tight under the arm, and use the right hand to hold the pistol grip, finger out of trigger guard, the left hand's index finger in the trigger guard, moved rapidly back and forth, a 20 round mag can be emptied very quick.

Not so good for hitting anything smaller than the side of the building.

LOL

41 posted on 07/30/2012 9:16:24 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: faucetman

You mean it has a mounting place that allows a bayonet to be fixed, don’t you? Cuz it sounded like it has a bayonet attached that you can’t take off, and my cousin’s AR-15 didn’it.


42 posted on 07/30/2012 9:21:09 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: going hot
Yes, bump fire, but even in full auto I don't think someone can get off 45 rounds faster than I can get 5 out of a pump shotgun.

Of course, a semi-auto shotgun can also be bump fired.

It always comes down to intent. There are no end of lethal ways of murdering lots of people in a packed space, such as a few gallons of gasoline at the exits.

We are lucky in a sense, that most crazy people act crazy, and not logical.

43 posted on 07/30/2012 9:24:22 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan
We are lucky in a sense, that most crazy people act crazy, and not logical.

The logical ones are truly dangerous!

They are prone to use planes, and gas in subways, and stuff.

44 posted on 07/30/2012 9:27:25 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: CodeToad

I’m only telling your what I’m hearing. Time and again I’ve heard of soldiers and military arms enthusiasts complain about lethality.

From what I understand, the wounding nature of the round is seen as an asset in some circles. That the theory is that a dead soldier costs nothing, but a wounded enemy requires two to carry him to aid and the medical resources to health him.

Personally, I’d rather make sure I don’t have to put the same man down twice.


45 posted on 07/30/2012 9:27:39 AM PDT by LevinFan
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To: MileHi

The demographics are not easily discerned.

We know that half are committed by and against black people.

I have read that when “Hispanics” (whatever that means) are victims, they are counted as “Hispanic” but when they are perpetrators they are counted as “white”.

When Japanese Americans were kept as a separate category, Japanese in America had homicide rates lower than Japanese in Japan, which has very low rates indeed.

Murder is fundamentally cultural, and the rates of homicide are not changed very much by access to weapons.


46 posted on 07/30/2012 9:30:05 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain; All

Bowing low to the people of the gun is much preferred to bowing low to the Saudi king.


47 posted on 07/30/2012 9:35:05 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

In a crowded theatre the shotgun would have been the more lethal weapon.


48 posted on 07/30/2012 9:35:12 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: marktwain
Machetes have been used to kill hundreds of thousands in Africa. Even when they have guns available, they seem to prefer hacking.
49 posted on 07/30/2012 9:38:01 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

It always comes down to intent. There are no end of lethal ways of murdering lots of people in a packed space, such as a few gallons of gasoline at the exits. We are lucky in a sense, that most crazy people act crazy, and not logical.


He could have brought in, amonia bottles and chlorine. Can your say mustard gas? He could have brought in a bunch of molotov cocktails. Or he could have rigged a pump to a gas tank and made a flamethrower. Imaging the body count that would have produced. Or he could have used a bomb.
I can’t think of this stuff all day long, while libs only think a gun can’t kill.


50 posted on 07/30/2012 9:44:45 AM PDT by LevinFan
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To: marktwain

A semiautomatic assault rifle, anyone?
A question Ms Washington?
Do you know what a semi-automatic rifle is
Do you understand the difference between an automatic weapon and a semi-automatic weapon?
Why use the word assault rifle? ANY rifle that is used to “attack” (read assault) a human being is an assault weapon. It could be an old single shot 22cal rifle. If you get shot in the head with it you do not know the difference between it an an assault rifle.
Please stop writing article on items you know nothing about!


51 posted on 07/30/2012 9:51:34 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
The latest bleat from the


52 posted on 07/30/2012 10:00:54 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: marktwain
The headline says it all: "the People of the Gun"

Go look at the WaPo's gun control frothing and what they all have in common is the desire to control us, the gun owners, not the guns.

Conceiving themselves as the elites, they believe (the law and the Constitution be damned) they have the right to strip us of our rights, our property and use the force of the government to visibly intimidate us.

They're deranged with hate, and their screeds make the best argument for the 2nd Amendment you can find.

53 posted on 07/30/2012 10:18:01 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: marktwain

“The demographics are not easily discerned.”

Perhaps so, but this map may give some insight. Manipulating the “race” catagory of victims is interesting.

http://essentials.baltimoresun.com/micro_sun/homicides/index.php?range=2011&district=all&zipcode=all&age=all&gender=all&race=all&cause=all&article=all&show_results=Show+Results


54 posted on 07/30/2012 10:29:03 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Fee
What all these shooters share is they all are on psychotropic drugs.

Exactly - the sister of a friend of mine killed her husband in bed when first taking anti-depressives.

55 posted on 07/30/2012 10:38:06 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: LevinFan
The AR platform can shoot a wide variety of common calibers. The fact that the military continues to use the 5.56 has nothing to do with the AR.

An AR in 6.5Grendel might be the perfect battle rifle. Although to be fair I'm not sure I would want to go hand to hand with it vs. an M1a.

56 posted on 07/30/2012 10:47:48 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: SampleMan

An M2 carbine fires at the rate of 750 rds per minute, which comes out to 12.5 rds a second. Which comes out to 62.5rds in 5 seconds.


57 posted on 07/30/2012 11:04:46 AM PDT by JimC214
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To: marktwain

Dear Laura Washington,
I’m sorry guns scare you.
Now, please go away and leave me alone.
Signed,
A gun owner.


58 posted on 07/30/2012 11:16:26 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: Durus

The ruggedness of the m16 vs. AKs is a long debate. But how often is hand to hand with guns an issues. I’d rather be able to shoot straight and carry more rounds than the dubious advantage of a gun/club.


59 posted on 07/30/2012 11:21:22 AM PDT by LevinFan
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To: JimC214
An M2 carbine fires at the rate of 750 rds per minute, which comes out to 12.5 rds a second. Which comes out to 62.5rds in 5 seconds.

How long to complete your two magazine changes?

Of course, I went for 00 buckshot with only 9 pellets per round. 0 buckshot is 12 per round, and I think I can get more than 1 off per second. :-)

60 posted on 07/30/2012 11:24:55 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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