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To: albionin

You can’t cut altrusim out of human nature. That only works in fiction. Objectivism, in the end, became just another cult. Human beings are never going to be some kind of cut-out figures in an Ayn Rand novel. There’s a reason why must people move past Ayn Rands’s philosophy after they reach college age. Altrusim is part of human natue....it’s not some kind of philosophy that we pick up from a book. It’s all about balancing the needs of ourselves & others in making a society work. I love the individualism that the United States has, until the recent troubles, been founded upon; but the Randian world-view that altrusim is the cause of mankinds downfall is foolish. Life is more complicated than the screaming cardboard figures that Rand has drawn.


49 posted on 07/30/2012 7:42:58 AM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: LongWayHome
Life is more complicated than the screaming cardboard figures that Rand has drawn.

Personally, I think Rand was deliberate when she made her characters as they were for the sake of the novel. There were very few "gray-shades" to be found because she wanted to paint a stark contrast between good and evil.

In a civilized, certainly Christian society, we recognize that there are needy among us who require some help. Most of us know this, and are more than willing to offer care. But I question your "human nature" reflections on altruism. In its base form, human nature is to look out for one's own self first, before others. We are social beings, but when pressed into a "your life or mine" situation--especially if I have no connection to you otherwise--my life will come first.

People do move beyond the pure Objectivism expressed in Rand's novels...because our lives are not novels. Once we go out into the real world, with jobs and families, we realize that compromises are sometimes made, particularly when it comes to raising children. But we recognize that AS was a fictional work, it was not meant as gospel! Reasonable people can read Rand and say, "yes, she makes some good points and generally I agree with her," without completely transforming their lives into a model of Francisco D'Anconia.

59 posted on 07/30/2012 8:32:55 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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