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To: NoLibZone
There are currently two threads alive generated by pieces written by Patrick J Buchanan. Visceral reactions to Buchanan are typically over-the-top. For the most part they represent a reflex to shoot the messenger. In one article Buchanan is telling us that our foreign entanglements are not working and are counterproductive. In the second article Buchanan is telling us that Republican politics are not working and demographics are about swamp us. He is right on both counts.

Anyone willing to don a green eye shade and look at America's balance sheet understands that we are out of money to maintain a global imperium. Posters who denigrate Buchanan and want to defend America against China must somehow deal with the anomaly that $.40 of every dollar we spend to defend ourselves from China is borrowed from China, or some other foreign power.

Anyone with access to an electoral college map can compare the color shadings since 1980 and only the purblind, but not even the colorblind, can deny that Republicans are losing geography as they lose demographics. The problem is not geographic it is demographic, economic, cultural, psychological and racial; the geographical shrinkage is but a symptom of a problem which is ineluctable.

Obama will lose this election in spite of the numbers on the ground because he has overreached but the Democrats will increasingly win national elections in coming cycles. Pat Buchanan is right and has been right for decades while his critics have been wrong.

Pat Buchanan has committed one unpardonable sin, he has offended political correctness. So long as he is in a posture in which he can be blackguarded as anti-Semitic, which on the right has become the equivalent of being opposed to shackling American foreign policy to Israel, he will be dismissed or worse. Buchanan is a paleoconservative and rejects the neoconservative notion that Americans must wage war as he no doubt believes we have been doing for a decade against the Muslim world on behalf of Israel.

This is a revolutionary thought, but Buchanan can be an anti-Semite and still be right about the wisdom of our foreign policy concerning Israel. He can be wrong about our foreign policy concerning Israel and be right in observing that making war in Afghanistan by blowing up buildings and then rebuilding buildings has very little to do with protecting America against 19 box cutter wielding Islamicists flying airplanes into American buildings. He can be wrong about everything else and still be right about our principal danger lying on the Mexican border. He can be wrong about many things and be right about the fundamental fact that we are out of money and will soon be out of options.

Ad hominem attacks are the weakest kind of rebuttal.

Buchanan has committed yet another unpardonable sin, he has defected from the Republican establishment. Are you old enough to remember his great convention speech? There is nothing in that speech about which The Tea Party would complain about today. It was utterly prophetic. It went unheeded and the fundamental problems which tint the colors of the electoral map have metastasized since. Many of the very people who denigrate Buchanan are the same elitists who have disenfranchised conservatives from the Republican Party. The Republican establishment could not tolerate Buchanan then and they cannot tolerate him now.

We conservatives would do well to identify our true enemies as well as our true problems and not indignantly spasm out in a reflex to shoot the messenger.


103 posted on 07/27/2012 11:41:30 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

You are obviously a liberal.

Only 18% of the federal budget goes to the military.

We can afford our “empire” if we cut back on social programs and other domestic spending.

Our war in Afghanistan is necessary to defend our national interests and it only cost $122 Billion in FY 2011 which was 3.4% of the federal budget.


111 posted on 07/28/2012 3:39:57 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: nathanbedford
We conservatives would do well to identify our true enemies as well as our true problems and not indignantly spasm out in a reflex to shoot the messenger.

The GOPe leeches have learned the Alinsky tactics well but are never bright enough to think of the possibility that we may recognize them.

As far as I'm concerned they're democrats and should just go ahead and vote that way.
113 posted on 07/28/2012 3:57:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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