Norm and a lot of others on this thread continue their race to see who can be the most irrelevant and stupid.......
Posted on 07/27/2012 4:57:07 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
For Immediate Release
Contact: tomhoefling@gmail.com
Sacramento, CA - America's Party presidential nominee Tom Hoefling has accepted the invitation of the American Independent Party of California to participle in three debates with candidates vying for their 2012 presidential nomination.
The dates for the three debates have been set for Wednesday August 1st, Saturday August 4th, and Tuesday August 7th.
While these will be evening events, the exact start times have not yet been announced. All three debates will be broadcast live on web radio. Please watch americaspartynews.com and tomhoefling.com for additional information and a live link which will be provided as soon as it becomes available.
Reportedly, as of this evening, four candidates have agreed to participate: Tom Hoefling of America's Party, Virgil Goode of the Constitution Party, Will Christensen of the Independent American Party, and Ed Noonan of the American Independent Party.
The first debate will address principles, the second will focus on domestic policy, and the third will deal with foreign policy.
Great news!
I’ll be watching, for sure. You don’t need to practice because you’ve been living these issues for years.
Great news!
I’ll be watching, for sure. You don’t need to practice because you’ve been living these issues for years.
Don’t make him say it 3 more times, either!
Off-topic, but the name of three of the parties (America’s Party, the American Independent Party, and the Independent American Party) reminded me of the joke in the movie “Life of Brian”, with the different terror groups that all had names with the same words, just in different orders.
Maybe he thought there would be kittens.... :-)
Should be a fun set of debates. Virgil is quite the talker, BTW. Most politicians, I’d love a shot at debating them — but I wouldn’t look forward to going up against Goode. So good luck to you.
I would agree. If you aren’t happy with the republican candidate, and you live in a state where Romney is a sure bet, or Obama is a sure bet, and there’s a serious 3rd-party candidate who you actually think is ready to be President, vote for them.
However, I do think that some people who call for the 3rd-party vote suggest supporting whatever candidate gets the nomination from the “conservative” party they choose, whether or not that candidate has any experience at all running anything.
For example, Virgil Goode is excellent, on at least some conservative issues (judge for yourself — see his website). But I’m not sure I’d want to take the chance of making him President, without knowing a lot more about what his skills at running large organizations are. Not sure being a congressman is enough.
But some of the other 3rd-party candidates don’t even have that. Not that you need an elected office first, but certainly we’d be looking for more than “ran the HOA, served on the PTA, or were the chair of a state republican party” (not sure if any of the candidates have any of those on the resume, just using them as examples).
Herman Cain had been the president and CEO of a fairly large company, and had a lot of public speaking experience. I argued that he wasn’t very qualified from an experience perspective, but I’d expect a 3rd-party candidate to at least have that type of experience.
I think the problem is that if you really have the leadership capability to run this country, you probably would end up being a major party candidate.
This foolishness is going to help 0bama.No it's not. Not really. At least some of the people who will be toilet-flushing their vote live in states that are either secure-red or secure-blue. But even in states that are contested, the number of vote-flushers we're talking about here is just too small to matter.
You call it foolishness, but I think you give it too much credit. I think it's just plain silliness. This whole effort of electing a 3rd party candidate belongs on the weekly silliness thread. 99.9% of the people in America (unfortunately on both sides) realize the futility and idiocy of supporting a 3rd party.
The days of Ross Perot and (unfortunately) Ralph Nader are over.
By 1999 he had the most conservative voting record of any House Democrat. He passionately opposed one of the Clinton White House's favorite projects, the bill to curb tobacco consumption: ''I'm not going to support legislation that bankrupts the companies, destroys the family farm and relegates land to a place where hope is a stranger and mercy will never reach!''Goode was one of 31 Democrats to vote for the Republicans' impeachment inquiry, and in December 1998 he voted for the impeachment of Clinton, evidently not a close issue for him. ''The party line says that lying under oath in a court proceeding is not an impeachable offense. I disagree with that.'' In 1999 he kept voting with Republicans on key issues--on gun control in June, on the tax cut in July, on the budget that passed in October. Republican leaders had kept in touch with him through Republican neighbor Bob Goodlatte, who frequently urged him to switch parties. In January 2000, Goode announced that he would no longer be a member of the Democratic Caucus and would run for re-election as an Independent. He said that he opposed Democrats' positions on spending and tobacco, and would attend meetings of the House Republican Conference and contribute to their campaign committee. Republicans promptly gave him a seat on the Appropriations Committee. In February, in Danville at the Piedmont Big Sale tobacco warehouse, he endorsed George W. Bush for president.
Its maddening to see where this country is going. It sickens me because I love this nation. When I drive around on Sunday past little farms hung with our flag and little white churches with hymns drifting out over the air and the sun shining over the fields...I don't want to sound sappy but I feel a tangible and physical love for this country and its people, there's no other way I can put it. Yet I see no way we can reverse whats happening, because the people who hate what America stands for always win. Always.
Its enough to make me throw up my hands and just cry.
This article reminds me of The Onion back when it was funny.
“I’ve learned the lesson that there is only one party in power. The Establishment Party. All other parties are the “other” party. So are you going to vote for the establishment candidate or a conservative candidate?”
Now that statement is pure silliness. I can see how it would appeal to immature, angst-driven, low-info voters, though. No thinking needed, just grab your pitchfork and hate everyone because they are all part of the “ESTABLISHMENT”.
We have received confirmation that the debates will begin at 6 pm Pacific time all three nights.
6 pm Pacific
7 pm Mountain
8 pm Central
9 pm Eastern.
They are scheduled to run about three hours each.
Norm and a lot of others on this thread continue their race to see who can be the most irrelevant and stupid.......
Gingrich’s statement is fallacious, since there will be other choices on the ballot.
The American people do not have to choose between the most radical leftist president in history and the most radical leftist governor in history.
They are completely free to choose neither, as they should.
If you want to preserve representative self-government, you must select candidates who actually represent you.
Otherwise, you’re part of the problem.
You are what used to be called "useful idiots".
Useful for Barack.
Congrats.
And just who is going to stay home? Do you know anyone? I don't.
Thanks! Coming from you I'll wear that as a badge of honor!
"Useful idiot" is a label for those who support socialists, not for those who refuse to do so.
You're confused.
The historical reference fits Romney Republican "conservatives" perfectly though.
Unfortunately what the MittBots fail to grasp is the more they insult and disparage us, the further they drive us away from their boy. I’ll proudly stand with you, EternalVigilance, Jim, and the others on FreeRepublic in saying NO to the GOPe. Let the Romney harpies keep screeching in our faces.
Thanks. God bless you.
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