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To: W.Lee

I don’t feel one bit sorry for the parents. I think we will discover and rightfully so, that they played their part in all of this..
and had they not been in denial and holding up and covering for their Golden Boy every step of the way, the incident may never have happened..ie they could have stopped it.

You KNOW when something isn’t right with one of your kids. YOU KNOW. What you do about it, or in this case, not, measures the level of courage within you and speaks to the core of who you are as a human being, not as an enabling parent.


43 posted on 07/23/2012 11:33:28 AM PDT by Mountain Mary (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: Mountain Mary

You make a valid point, did the parents know there was something wrong? Probably...could they have done something? Frankly, since the ACLU made it almost impossible to secure people with mental illness or just plain ol’ murderous inclinations until AFTER they have gone on a rampage, short of putting one in his ear when he came home for a visit, what could they have done? Any calls to to the police would have been ignored. Don’t misunderstand me, when all is said and done, this one needs to be put down like any other rabid animal.


68 posted on 07/23/2012 12:03:00 PM PDT by W.Lee (No compromise)
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To: Mountain Mary
“I don’t feel one bit sorry for the parents. I think we will discover and rightfully so, that they played their part in all of this..
and had they not been in denial and holding up and covering for their Golden Boy every step of the way, the incident may never have happened..ie they could have stopped it.”


Possible. Anecdotal, I know a young man who clearly has mental problems and his parents, his friends, etc. have tried to help him. All fear that something could really go bad....in spite of all of their efforts to get help for him. The best they can do is get him psychiatry and medications and as much care and love as possible. And prayer without ceasing.
He acts better with psyche and meds but sometimes these people go off their meds thinking they are alright.

And that is when the nightmare really ratchets up...quickly. Very sad.

Incidentally (or not), he has a female cousin with the same type of behavior. She didn't kill anyone but she is a felon. Very, very, very sad all around for them and for their families and for their victims. (tears for situations such as this)

87 posted on 07/23/2012 12:17:07 PM PDT by hummingbird (Breitbart and Spartacus: here, there, everywhere.)
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To: Mountain Mary

I feel sorry for them. Unless info comes out to indicate otherwise, I don’t assume they are guilty for his crimes.


135 posted on 07/23/2012 1:05:25 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Mountain Mary

Several years after Laurie Dann shot up a suburban Chicago school in 1988 (complete with predictable screaming for gun control among the affluent, isolated-from-reality North Shore suburbs), a book on Dann and her rampage (”Murder Of Innocence”) came out.

I found it surprisingly evenhanded (especially considering the authors)...and the central theme was one of mental health. In particular, that she had been visibly spinning out of control for some time, and her affluent parents covered for her even unto death, as they kept the cops out of her room until after they had had time to sanitize the scene.


137 posted on 07/23/2012 1:08:12 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: Mountain Mary
You KNOW when something isn’t right with one of your kids. YOU KNOW. What you do about it, or in this case, not, measures the level of courage within you and speaks to the core of who you are as a human being...
I agree with you, Mary. Mental illness can easily be a lifetime struggle, and if the parents aren't strongly part of it (siblings too), where does the sick person go? I wonder if the parents either agreed to or encouraged his further education. Too.much.stress for someone in his condition (no matter what it is). Mother Teresa of Calcutta once said, and it makes a great deal of sense to me:
If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other.
Prayers for all involved.
142 posted on 07/23/2012 1:15:43 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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