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To: Truthsearcher

The city’s rich were as much as a villain a Bain. Every rich person an oppressor of the masses. The government an oppressive regime. Not one hero in the ordinary masses, instead they enjoy the rape and pillaging of the rich. Destroying their property that they didn’t earn.

The movie could have been so much better if Nolan had faith in humanity. Where citizens fought back, where some of the rich offered food and belongings in support of the poor, where people helped people out of the kindness of their hearts, where honest businessman contributed in this time of need. Where people stood up and died for the cause of right. Nolan has no faith in America or the American people, his portrayal is the opposite of what America is.


48 posted on 07/21/2012 7:55:04 PM PDT by BushCountry (I hope the Mayans are wrong!)
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To: BushCountry

Just a hint, the movie was about Batman. Batman was rich, he was the hero that was risking it all to help people, he gave his money to support an orphanage. He is the rich businessman helping people that you’re looking for.

I don’t know why you think the movie needed another person to play the role of hero, when the whole point was that Batman is the embodiment of all those heroic things you said the film needed. Unless you simply hate Batman as a character as insist on the movie having anybody but him as the hero, in which case I guess I understand why you hate the movie.


52 posted on 07/21/2012 8:02:08 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: BushCountry
The movie could have been so much better if Nolan had faith in humanity. Where citizens fought back, where some of the rich offered food and belongings in support of the poor, where people helped people out of the kindness of their hearts, where honest businessman contributed in this time of need. Where people stood up and died for the cause of right. Nolan has no faith in America or the American people, his portrayal is the opposite of what America is.

Now I know you have no clue what you are seeing. Did you see the Dark Knight Returns? Where the Joker had wired several barges to explode, unless the passengers on the barges chose to kill the those on the other boat? And both groups, the citizens and the criminals, choose to risk death rather than take the lives of others. The whole point of that movie was faith in the basic decency of people! That's how the Joker was defeated.

Same director. Same theme.

59 posted on 07/21/2012 8:41:28 PM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: BushCountry
I do not think you saw the movie at all, and if you did, you must have either slept through most of it, or have very poor cognitive skills.

The city’s rich were as much as a villain a Bain.

This movie NEVER depicted such a thing aside from a few people portrayed as crony Capitalists for the purpose of furthering the storyline. In fact, in the beginning of the film, the city's rich are enjoying 8 years of a relatively peaceful city that was coming out of DECADES of corruption (think Cook County Chicago).

Every rich person an oppressor of the masses.

There is not one scene in the movie that depicts or even suggest that. The lines that the rich are the 'people's' oppressors are spoken by Bane and his freed inmate mercenaries.

The government an oppressive regime.

Bane's 'Revolutionary' Government - YES. Because it was. Gotham's government before Bane arrives is not depicted as an oppressive regime. It's depicted as a government at peacetime.

Not one hero in the ordinary masses

One rookie cop and Jim Gordon were not heroes? Anyone standing up against the initial takeover by Bane was shot by rooftop snipers. The rest of the city was warned that any attempts to play 'hero' or to escape would result in the nuclear device being set off and everyone in the city being vaporized

instead they enjoy the rape and pillaging of the rich. Destroying their property that they didn’t earn.

Not one suggestion or hint of rape is even implied in this movie, and much of the violence on ordinary citizens by Bane's mercenaries left up to your own assumptions.

Actually, Bane tells the "ordinary citizens" of Gotham to go back to their homes, and that they should join his revolution and 'take control' from the rich who HE SAID oppressed them.

The 'ordinary' friend of Selina Kyle that makes a statement that everything the rich have is now theirs, was a thief in the beginning of the film and already had the mindset that she could help herself to whatever she wanted.

The movie could have been so much better if Nolan had faith in humanity.

Obviously you did not see The Dark Knight either. The entire point of the ending of that movie was Batman placing his faith in the humanity of Gotham's citizens, INCLUDING a barge full of convicts that were given an opportunity to blow up a barge full of 'ordinary citizens' by the Joker.

Where citizens fought back, where some of the rich offered food and belongings in support of the poor, where people helped people out of the kindness of their hearts, where honest businessman contributed in this time of need. Where people stood up and died for the cause of right. Nolan has no faith in America or the American people, his portrayal is the opposite of what America is.

You did not see the movie the Dark Knight Rises. Not possible with a statement like that.

Bruce Wayne and his acts for the city and the poor are EXACTLY what you say Nolan did not portray. In fact in Batman Begins it was the rich of the city after Thomas and Martha Wayne's murder that were galvanized into action and saving the city. Wayne even built a free public transportation monorail for the city with his own money.

Whatever your animus is for this movie - slandering it and depicting it as something it doesn't depict - is pretty pathetic.

86 posted on 07/22/2012 1:09:20 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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