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To: Colofornian

Well, you are now attacking freepers, and elsewhere you suggested that they were “defending” rapists.

And as a practical matter, it makes NO difference to the victims of this horrific crime whether people discussing it here state some boilerplate sympathy for the victims. This is a conservative web site to discuss issues and try to get conservatives elected and advance conservative principles.

It’s not a place for people to worry about political correctness. Sorry if we don’t argue points the way YOU want, but that’s the way it is.


44 posted on 07/21/2012 8:07:17 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT; Jean S; svcw; Tamzee; Tammy8; rktman; bobsatwork; albie; NormsRevenge; arasina; ...
CharlesWayneCT, Post #44: And as a practical matter, it makes NO difference to the victims of this horrific crime whether people discussing it here state some boilerplate sympathy for the victims. This is a conservative web site to discuss issues and try to get conservatives elected and advance conservative principles. It’s not a place for people to worry about political correctness. Sorry if we don’t argue points the way YOU want, but that’s the way it is.

You know, lurkers to a given Web site discussion DO nab a good glimpse of priorities/focus of posters. I'm not talking about every single post -- but a sense of the corporate/collective "sense" of what's being emoted.
Are they provoked about a criminal?
Are they moved with compassion for victims?
Are they wanting to protect the GoP reputation with the oft-knee jerk reaction of blaming the liberal media -- or, the other convenient trick, just blaming the messenger -- the person who posted it?

Actually, that's what Svcw addressed in post#38 to Jean S: ...you seem to be only focused on the poster not the victims who apparently are mostly mormons. Why is that

What we've seen in this "microcosm" of thread dynamics of this sort is several posters (posts 2-->23) attempted to blame "liberal" Mormon journalists! (That was a rather strange position to find myself in...Me defending the conservative components of Lds journalists/editors @ KSL/Deseret News!)

When that tactic didn't work, posters took to attacking me -- many for simply posting this thread. There were 10 such posts between from posts #17 --> 44.

You can review 21 of these categorized comments in the chart below...
[I subtracted my comments, the James Holmes unrelated comments (#7, #34), and the tactical questions by svcw and CharlesWayneCT (#37, 38, 46)]... Hence, although I agree in part re: Chuck's reference to a "boilerplate" re: comments...or "political correctness" not being honored...this thread has made for a "good microcosm" of the dynamics of the "turf" posters felt the need to either protect -- or attack.

We actually see this same pattern expanded and exercised DAILY on FR on MANY threads!

THREAD FOCUS DYNAMICS MICROCOSM (Posts 2-->44)

Posts attempting to convince others that Lds church owned KSL/Deseret News presented 'liberal' slant Posts focusing on Defending GoP reputation Posts focusing on Colofornian -- primarily for posting this thread Posts focusing on MormonISM Posts focusing on Romney Posts focusing with perp-specific comments Posts focusing on victims
21 overall Posts reviewed: # of sub-topics covered in these posts: 9 (43%) 9 (43%) 10 (48%) 4 (19%) 1 (5%) 1 (5%) 1 (5%)
Which post #s tallied above? 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 12, 16, 21, 22 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 16, 21, 22, 23 17, 19, 22, 23, 26, 27, 28, 29, 35, 44 11, 18, 19, 41 19 21 3

This chart also readily addresses two questions Jean S asked in post #33: What in the heck are you talking about? perp advocacy? That comment makes no sense.

* When you see that there were 10 negative comments made about the thread poster -- and only one negative comment specifically made about the perp (Tammy8 in post #21), that is by sheer vacuum "perp advocacy." That is outright failure to condemn rape...
...and instead winds up turning ALL negative attention from the perp to the thread poster who shines a light on the perp (commonly known as "shooting the messenger.")

Instead of distancing themselves from an immoral GoP activist racist, they instead prefer to distance themselves morally from the thread poster.

Very interesting group psychology exercised here.

Likewise...
* When there is only a terse six-word focus on the victims (by Rktman) very early in the thread -- and only prompted by my comment in post #1 -- whereas nine attempts to protect the GoP by blaming the source (KSL/DesNews)...
...THAT is turning the attention from the victims to placing the blame on the media source that cast its light on this GoP activist! (also commonly known as "shooting the messenger")

LURKERS:
Want a compassionate unbiased conservatism that won't "knee-jerk" in putting political reputations above justice; above compassion and concern for the victims? (Well, it's getting MUCH harder to find in the GoP representation we're seeing on FR!!!)

47 posted on 07/21/2012 9:21:31 PM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
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