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J.C. Penney stock crashes with news of gay marriage support
afa ^ | July 17, 2012

Posted on 07/19/2012 3:25:37 PM PDT by NYer

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To: onedoug

New Balance 646, $38.99 off eBay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/320925161788?hlp=false


161 posted on 07/19/2012 11:04:22 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: F15Eagle

I had to throw 2 weddings last year and still have a $40 tie with the Penneys price tag still on it. I think I will return it this weekend for my money back.

Its the little things in life !


162 posted on 07/19/2012 11:07:55 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: EnquiringMind

NO. Its about the gays.


163 posted on 07/19/2012 11:09:28 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: My Favorite Headache

No, he was not one of the main guys from Apple. Ron Johnson was a marketing exec who developed the Apple Store layout and format. He was not in charge of any of their marketing campaigns and he was never given control over Apple’s direction. Before Jobs hired him in 2000 to help develop the stores, he worked for Target for 15 years and helped develop their store plans and layouts.


164 posted on 07/19/2012 11:23:32 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr; windcliff

You’re right, Spktyr.

My wife is giving me a hard time over this. She says I should have gone to our local running shoe store and bought the same shoes made in the USA even if for a little more money given Vietnam’s frankly terrible record of child labor of over 70 hours per week and their paltry salaries of mere pennies for that work. And that unless the shoes are prefect they won’t even be paid that. This too given the fact that US manufacturers are struggling to keep tarriffs in place which they need lest their whole businesses are farmed out to foreign competition.

I guess I’ve let a second trip to Vietnam in 2000 blind me to what’s really going on there vis-a-vis their labor markets. Though I’m still glad I made that trip with my daughter. But I guess some of the imagery was a bit too sureal.

Though live and learn: I won’t make the same mistakes again. I’ve got a great wife!


165 posted on 07/19/2012 11:36:18 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: NYer
I did buy a dress from Penney's a few months back for my daughter who begged for it for a school semi- formal. She had picked it out with a friend when I wasn't along. I agreed to at least look at it. It was beautiful on her, I had to admit. The last one in her size had a part of the zipper that was broken. A simple fix. The dress was marked $109.99. I said, half jokingly to the cashier, “Excuse me, this dress is not wearable because of this zipper, would you consider taking $20 for it? “ The cashier was actually the manager filling in and said “sure”. I fixed it at home with a zipper piece I had and I have no sewing talent whatsoever. The manager claimed he lost money on the dress so I don't feel guilty about shopping there! And daughter won a “prettiest dress” prize!
166 posted on 07/20/2012 12:18:08 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: NYer

I don’t care who you are or what you stand for it mays ZERO sense to try to make political statements in marketing and be a retailer. It almost never works. The whole gay thing is just stupid because it is so marginal. Gays have NEVER been a good target segment those who have tried to make the case are studies in marketing malpractice. If anything Chik Fil a’s success indicates that being more Christian centric is a far wiser marketing tack but why is it that that very obvious thing is lost on our Harvard educated marketing execs? Can they just not do the math?

Its like the stupid canard that keeps coming up in some GOP circles about how if we just invited gays into our GOP tent and the bitter proaborts we’d win win win! It never happens and the evidence is actually to the contrary but as with most liberals and intelligentsia they don’t let reality get in the way of what the wish to be true.


167 posted on 07/20/2012 12:18:26 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: NYer

Desperation, or a jinx, or both.


168 posted on 07/20/2012 12:32:12 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: fhayek

And the non-gays have KIDS that need stuff.


169 posted on 07/20/2012 12:45:51 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: KoRn

It’s both. The no coupon thing was serious death to them. All the competitor stores in their level have coupons and sales, people need to believe they are getting deals.


170 posted on 07/20/2012 12:47:25 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: F15Eagle

Jumped off the rainbow bridge...

Raised the rainbow flag of surrender...

It’s not over til the last transvestite Judy Garland impersonator has sung...well, s/he just wrapped up her last set...


171 posted on 07/20/2012 12:54:12 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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The Dollar Store has better quality items........Dollar store could be HUGE with some clothing items. Hey....they could just buy them from JC Pennnny!


172 posted on 07/20/2012 12:54:45 AM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: rcrngroup

The one I have near my home is like a KFC. It’s a drive thru with a small eating area inside.


173 posted on 07/20/2012 3:11:00 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Spktyr

I agree that it is only when there was nothing left to lose that JC Penney took their “bold stance” (probably hoping to raise some cash with a last-minute splurge by deviants before closing its doors); as this economy continues to tank, I find it ever easier to support the myriad of boycotts on FR because less and less of these places will get the limited discretionary income I have. In better times some businesses were unavoidable; now it is easy.


174 posted on 07/20/2012 3:55:57 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: jersey117

“It’s the same with Hollywood.”

They have become so transparent it is ridiculous; traditional families/values are mocked, fathers are portrayed as buffoons (unless they’re raising someone else’s kids - then they’re the Greatest People In The World), and women are the strongest, smartest creatures alive.

I was so proud of one of my sons the other day when he got a hold of a “Highlights” magazine, and pointed out that all of Gallant’s friends are black (Goofus & Gallant are two brothers, in which Goofus is bad and Gallant is good). An example would be: “Goofus takes the last cookie in the jar, while Gallant asks if anyone else would like the last cookie” (with simple illustrations). I’ve analyzed media nonsense for my sons for years (they’re all in grammar school), and I liked how this one picked up on the diversty message.


175 posted on 07/20/2012 4:08:24 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Delta 21
NO. Its about the gays.

For YOU it's about homophobia, for ME, and just about EVERYONE ELSE who stopped shopping there, it's all about coupons.

176 posted on 07/20/2012 4:50:33 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: SoFloFreeper

Ditto: no JCP anymore (sent them an email this morning), and Kellogg’s/Quaker Oats do very nicely, thankyouverymuch.

Buh-bye sodomites!


177 posted on 07/20/2012 6:06:21 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (All libs and most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: EnquiringMind

The coupon argument versus the gay argument, eh?

Seems to me that the company made TWO bad business decisions at the same time and that BOTH of them have contributed to driving customers away.

Who knows, though, that the rejection of common sense in the gay area is not the same “malady of irrationality” that led JCP to make bad decisions elsewhere.

The truth is that AFA has been involved in other boycotts of other businesses that have had significant concerns develop with their sales.

All that is being asked is that recognize that if they take one side in the cultural wars, then they will alienate the other side. IOW, it’s probably wisest to stay out of the cultural wars and alienate no one.


178 posted on 07/20/2012 6:46:45 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
All that is being asked is that recognize that if they take one side in the cultural wars, then they will alienate the other side. IOW, it’s probably wisest to stay out of the cultural wars and alienate no one.

I agree with you 100%. Their gay advertising certainly piled on to their foolish marketing strategy.

179 posted on 07/20/2012 7:34:13 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: EnquiringMind

The sad thing, because I am a former JCP customer until they change their behavior, is that, at least here in our area, JCP had the very best curtain section of all stores. They also supplied a large share of my shirts.

In our case, at least, they will lose sales until they come to their senses. (And, yes, we did use their coupons.)


180 posted on 07/20/2012 7:41:17 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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