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To: Seizethecarp
IMO, the evidence points to evasion of naturalization by an illegal alien Barry.

Unless you think Stanley Ann was not his mom, he would be a US citizen regardless of where he was born and who his father was. Though arguably not NBC.

Those birthers who want to claim Obama wasn't his "real" father just damage their own case, which is based on Pop not being a US citizen. If Pop is somebody else, there's a very good chance he was a citizen.

If Mom was enough of a party girl, there's a good chance she would not know who the bio-dad was, though he was pretty clearly of African ancestry and there weren't a whole bunch of those in HI at the time. Or now, FTM.

43 posted on 07/11/2012 3:10:46 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

“Unless you think Stanley Ann was not his mom, he would be a US citizen regardless of where he was born and who his father was. Though arguably not NBC.”

Yes, arguably NOT NBC! I discussed this issue in detail in my vanity thread:

“Obama cites US v Marguet-Pillado. Dicta implies Obama eligible even if born in Kenya”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2857598/posts

“IMO, the timing of this citation by Obama and his legal team shows “consciousness of guilt” that he is actively hiding his actual foreign birth, which most likely would be in Kenya. The defendant in the Marguet-Pillado case was born in Mexico to a Mexican citizen mother and had stipulated in an earlier trial (reversed and remanded) that the US citizen named Marguet that appeared on his Mexican birth certificate was not his natural father. Why would Obama cite to a case which adds nothing at all towards establishing his eligibility if he were, in fact, born in the US?”


52 posted on 07/11/2012 6:42:35 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Sherman Logan
Unless you think Stanley Ann was not his mom, he would be a US citizen regardless of where he was born and who his father was.

False.

If Obama was born to Stanley Ann and a non-US citizen father outside the US, he would NOT even be a US citizen AT ALL, unless he naturalized at some later time. Law in effect at the time of Obama's birth, here:

For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.
Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by a Child Born Abroad
Stanley Ann was 18 when Obama was born. She didn't meet the 5 years after the age of 14 requirement. She couldn't pass US citizenship to Obama under those circumstances.
56 posted on 07/11/2012 8:46:37 AM PDT by Rides3
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To: Sherman Logan
Those birthers who want to claim...

As opposed to say..."birthers" like you?

88 posted on 07/11/2012 3:33:06 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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