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To: Seizethecarp; LucyT; Fred Nerks; Brown Deer
On the contrary it is only unsupported speculation that Stanley Ann was NOT in HI in the Russian class in the Fall of 1960. All of the evidence supports her being there and there is NO evidence supporting claims of forgery of any of the FOIA docs, U of HI Registrar letter, U of WA transcripts.

Well you can say anything. But the fact record is this.

Copies of 1960's U of W transcript forms are out there in circulation--they make the U of W procedure for tracking academic record clear and demonstrate conclusively that the U of W transcript is fraudulent.

That in turn impeaches the Hawaii record recounted on the fraudulent transcript.

Further, the combined documents are not credible because on their face, they infer that Stanley didn't get credit for either the claimed 1960 Hawaii course or the U of W academic credits.

You have the letters from the East West Center students in the fall of 61--Senior didn't have a wife at the U of W who had custody of a son at that time.

You have the Rick Anderson Seattle Weekly article--no baby at the Toutonghi boarding house on Capital Hill.

The U of Hawaii letters and other web site information is not evidence--no certified transcript or other reason to believe it is any more factual than the fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate. The only document in the entire package that would meet the test of admissible evidence would be a certified copy of the U of W transcript. We don't have that and won't get it because no one at the U will take the risk of a perjury charge to certify it for the reason that it is clearly a fake that would be exposed by any of the hundreds of people who have first hand knowledge of how these kinds of records were maintained in the 60's and by production of actual 1960's academic records.

There is no record of any single person who saw Stanley in Hawaii at any time prior to March 1963--she wasn't there.

174 posted on 07/16/2012 10:17:30 AM PDT by David
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There is no record of any single person who saw Stanley Ann in Hawaii at any time prior to March 1963--she wasn't there.

Please check out more information at # 174.

Thanks, David.

175 posted on 07/16/2012 10:26:09 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: David; Brown Deer; LucyT

U of Hawaii can not even agree what degree SAD received.

http://math-hawaii-edu.appspot.com/?math_news

“Endowment to honor alumna
Posted on November 22, 2010 by David Ross

The University of Hawaii Foundation is forming an endowment fund that will honor the late Stanley Ann Dunham, a UH-Manoa Mathematics alumna and President Barack Obama’s mother. Fundraising is just beginning for the endowment, a partnership between the UH Foundation and the East-West Center.
University officials say the fund will support an endowed chair in the anthropology department and scholarships for students focused on that field and other social sciences. Dunham received a BA in Mathematics from UH-Manoa in 1967, then went on to earn an MA (1983) and PhD (1992) in Anthropology from UH. The fund is in the name of Ann Dunham Soetoro, the name Obama’s mother adopted after marrying her second husband, Lolo Soetoro. She also name during years of anthropology studies.”

More on the fund above:

http://www.uhfoundation.org/donor_resources/giving_opportunities/dunhamsoetoro_endowed_fund.aspx

http://www.anthropology.hawaii.edu/News/Announcements/Dunham/dunham.html

“GW: What can you tell us about Ann’s entry into anthropology?

AD: Despite some reports that she majored in mathematics, she majored in anthropology here at the University of Hawai‘i (BA 1967, Department of Anthropology, prior to the MA and PhD). That’s when she met Obama senior in a Russian language class and eventually married him. After she broke with Obama she married her second husband, Lolo Soetoro, in 1965 I think. When Ann, Lolo and Barack returned to Indonesia, she taught English in Jakarta. Her son Barry, who was six-ish, was starting first grade I think and her daughter Maya with Lolo was born several years later.”

Was her degree in Mathematics or Anthropology?

U of H can not even seem to get it right.

From the first article:

“Dunham received a BA in Mathematics from UH-Manoa in 1967, then went on to earn an MA (1983) and PhD (1992) in Anthropology from UH. “

From the second:

“Despite some reports that she majored in mathematics, she majored in anthropology here at the University of Hawai‘i (BA 1967, Department of Anthropology, prior to the MA and PhD).”

If these were reporter articles the confusion might be understandable. But both statements come from the University itself. The claim of a Mathematics degree is pretty specific.


181 posted on 07/16/2012 11:46:54 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: David; LucyT; Brown Deer; melancholy; null and void
You fail to mention the FOIA INS docs affirming in April 1961 an alleged marriage on Feb 2, 1961 a pregnancy and attempted Salvation Army adoption (never would an Obot have an incentive to allege this violation of the “Dreams” narrative) a birth of a baby named BHO II on Aug 4, 1961 and an impending plan in August of 1961 for the USC spouse to leave HI to attend a Washington University.

Of course the U of WA transcripts do not look like 1961 era transcripts because non of the transcripts purport to be 1961 era transcripts. One is from 2009 and confirms 1960 graduation from Mercer, Fall 1960 Russian with credit given by U of WA in addition to Fall 1961 attendance at U of WA (absent any evidence of forgery...which you haven't presented).

Rather than impeach the HI Registrar's letter, the U of WA transcripts from the 1970’s/80’s and the 2009 transcript corroborate the U o HI Registrar's letter.

None of the numerous documents corroborating Stanley Ann's attendance in Russian class in HI in 1960 and in the Fall of 1961 at U of WA and the FIOA INS docs can be proved to be forged unless the originals can be independently forensically examined and/or proved up in discovery under the Federal Rules of Evidence, which they have not been to date..nor have any credible claims of prima facie forgery been made by you, IMO.

Rich Anderson's story is hearsay several degrees removed, IIRC with zero documentary support and is contradicted by numerous claimed firsthand witness accounts.

182 posted on 07/16/2012 12:18:06 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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