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To: Brown Deer; Seizethecarp; little jeremiah; Fred Nerks; LucyT; melancholy; Red Steel; ...

The point of my earlier comment is that the fact that Ella was credentialed teaching a Russian language class in 1955 does not mean that she was in fact teaching Russian in 1960 anywhere at the University, much less at the East West Center.

In fact, as Fred also points out, the purported story here has not been anywhere on the record until some recent date. A couple of years ago, Fred identified a news article dating from the late 50’s or early 60’s which has since been scrubbed about two retired ladies in Honolulu, one of whom to the best of my memory was Ella, who were retired Russian language instructors, who were living in Hawaii. No evidence that either one of them was teaching Russian in the fall of 1960.

Given the extent to which we are looking at a record, much of which emanates from Photo Shop, it isn’t unreasonable to suggest that we ought to see some certified record that dates back in the 60’s or 70’s before we believe that the University of Hawaii was teaching a Russian language class anywhere in a closet in 1960—certainly didn’t have anything to do with the East West Center which didn’t even exist.

And of course it is some leap from the point at which you could prove a Russian language course was possible to supporting a fairy tale about Stanley, an entering Freshman, being in the class in the fall of 60—as of this date, there is no real evidence Stanley was ever in Hawaii prior to March of 1963.


172 posted on 07/16/2012 7:39:24 AM PDT by David
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“And of course it is some leap from the point at which you could prove a Russian language course was possible to supporting a fairy tale about Stanley, an entering Freshman, being in the class in the fall of 60—as of this date, there is no real evidence Stanley was ever in Hawaii prior to March of 1963.”

On the contrary it is only unsupported speculation that Stanley Ann was NOT in HI in the Russian class in the Fall of 1960. All of the evidence supports her being there and there is NO evidence supporting claims of forgery of any of the FOIA docs, U of HI Registrar letter, U of WA transcripts.


173 posted on 07/16/2012 8:44:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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