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1 posted on 07/10/2012 8:19:56 AM PDT by smokingfrog
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It would have been the same if he were holding a dog.


2 posted on 07/10/2012 8:23:16 AM PDT by Paladin2
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"added that Herrera had had run-ins with police – break-ins, thefts. He was, Johns said, a "small-time guy."

Made the bigs.

3 posted on 07/10/2012 8:25:41 AM PDT by Paladin2
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i’m shocked, shocked that polices are not kungfu masters


4 posted on 07/10/2012 8:26:54 AM PDT by 4rcane
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This worthless punk’s family just won the lottery.But it will still be a net gain for society....if he had lived he would have cost society 10 times what the settlement will be.


5 posted on 07/10/2012 8:27:01 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President Of My Lifetime)
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"...someone walking the streets with an assault rifle..."

How did he have an assault rifle hidden in his pants?

6 posted on 07/10/2012 8:27:56 AM PDT by Blennos
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She said the officer "tried to throw him down, but (Herrera) wouldn't go down."

That was when the officer spotted the butt of the weapon protruding from the teen's clothing.

"The cop stepped back and yelled 'Gun,' and fired," Williams said. She and Jones say they heard five shots.

Both said they realize Herrera was carrying a weapon. But "they could've took the gun off that boy," she said. "It shouldn't have happened like that."

It sounds like she will make a good witness for the officers.

7 posted on 07/10/2012 8:27:56 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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votive candles, family photos and offerings of beer and tequila

Is Herrera's thirsty spirit drinking the beer and tequila after midnight? *eerie music*

8 posted on 07/10/2012 8:29:21 AM PDT by Tax-chick (And I'm like, "So we die. Whatever.")
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Let's see what the take away lesson is.

Trayvon Martin: Carry a gun.

This case: Carry a bigger gun.

Several years ago I was coming back from shooting at the range carrying a fully loaded pistol as I legally could with my CCW. Looked in my mirror and say the blue lights flashing. Pulled over rolled the window down and kept my hands clearly visible on the steering wheel. When the officer walked up I told him that I was carrying a legal firearm and asked him what he would like me to do.

I followed his instructions to the letter and there was no harm no foul.

But then again I wasn't a small time thug interested in being a jack wad.

10 posted on 07/10/2012 8:32:39 AM PDT by verga (Every single cult leader believes in home schooling....Think about it.)
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17 year old mexican, with an assult rifle, refusing to follow cop commands. Im GLAD they blew out his lamp. Thinking of the innocent people he won’t victimize. Glad the cops went home safe.

Bet the neighbors wouldnt be lighting candles on a roadside memorial if he could have shot the cops first.


12 posted on 07/10/2012 8:33:56 AM PDT by DesertRhino (perI was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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Funny how they never mention what actual weapon that was being carried by the deceased. If by “assualt weapon” they mean an AK-47 type or M-16/AR-15/M-4 type, my question is, how do you conceal it under your clothing, especially with a magazine attached, and given the light clothing probably worn given the summer heat?


13 posted on 07/10/2012 8:34:10 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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17 posted on 07/10/2012 8:39:29 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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..covered with votive candles, family photos and offerings of beer and tequila..

Sounds like the author of this piece couldn't spell "syringes".

18 posted on 07/10/2012 8:39:56 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President Of My Lifetime)
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"they could've took the gun off that boy," she said. "It shouldn't have happened like that."

I shudder to think people THAT stupid have the right to vote....

19 posted on 07/10/2012 8:40:35 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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“It’s a common thread of concern: ‘Why don’t they shoot warning shots or shoot at a leg?’ “ Tournour said. “They’re trained to shoot until the threat is ended.”

Television. Citizens see “cops” shooting guns out of peoples hands after a 8 block foot chase and want a real police officer to do the same thing.


22 posted on 07/10/2012 8:44:12 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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Check the serial number, was it one of Holders Fast and Furious guns?


23 posted on 07/10/2012 8:44:56 AM PDT by oldbrowser (Your character is your fate.....fortune cookie)
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Dude probably couldn’t go down cause he had his piece stuck in his lowriders and holding it up with the drawstring from his hoodie, just sayin’.

Poor clothing choices in Kalefornia can lead to fashion disasters.

BTW: What’s the chance of a reporter in Sacramento getting this right?


26 posted on 07/10/2012 8:51:07 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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As friends and the curious made their way to the Meadowview location, on Monday covered with votive candles, family photos and offerings of beer and tequila,...

Beer and tequila for a 17 year old kid's memorial? What the hell is wrong with these people?

28 posted on 07/10/2012 8:58:21 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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...he officer spotted the butt of the weapon protruding from the teen's clothing.

"The cop stepped back and yelled 'Gun,' and fired," ...

That is a far cry from the Rules of Engagement our people in the middle east have to endure.

29 posted on 07/10/2012 8:59:30 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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17 + armed + struggling with cops = fatal mistake.
Even if us armchair cops out here think disarming him peacefully may have been possible, resisting cops is not a good idea.

34 posted on 07/10/2012 9:16:09 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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From the responses I got on my post on an earlier thread; These “trigger happy’ cops should have waited until the late Ascencion Herrera pulled the weapon and then and only then disarmed him. Either by using Kung-fu(ey) or by shooting the weapon out of his hand. After all that is how Gene and Roy did it.
40 posted on 07/10/2012 9:42:21 AM PDT by Tupelo (TeaPartier ..... but no longer a Republican)
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