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Thousands of Americans trek to Alabama to witness woman who 'can see the Virgin Mary'
UK Daily Mail ^
| July 10, 2012
| Staff
Posted on 07/10/2012 6:22:06 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan
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posted on
07/10/2012 7:00:21 AM PDT
by
Mad Dawg
(Depone serpentem et ab veneno gradere.)
To: C19fan
Reminds me of a local story where a woman saw Mary in a pane of glass of her window. They tried to remove the window and the glass broke. I had never seen such wailing and gnashing of teeth.
To: yldstrk
and your views on scientology?
I'm an odd duck. I'm a follower of what The Catholic Church would call "Primitive Christianity" or "The Jerusalem Church", I don't adhere to the gentile mission. Therefore, my viewpoints are at odds with both christians and messianics (as most messianics are actually just christian-zionists). Probably the only viewpoints I agree with christians and messianics on are the viewpoints on flat-out pagan cults like scientology. I base my religious following off of both historical provenance and theological provenance because you just don't always get the truth from either. I'll leave it at that. This isn't really the venue for me to try to explain why I chose the "Primitive Christianity" of "The Jerusalem Church" over modern christianity.
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posted on
07/10/2012 7:07:36 AM PDT
by
brent13a
(Glenn Beck is an a$$hat.)
To: nhoward14
Yes, much worship of the made up Goddess Mary.
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posted on
07/10/2012 7:14:02 AM PDT
by
sr4402
To: brent13a
The Church says nothing more than that Mary said, at the first miracle, the Wedding a Cana, “Do whatever He tells you”.
The Churchalso says that appearances at Mejugorjie have NOT been verified as miraculous.
The Church also says of those apparitions which have been verified, that it is not compulsory for the faithful to believe them.
Facts and truth.
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posted on
07/10/2012 7:24:42 AM PDT
by
stanne
To: C19fan
I can see her too (shhhh don’t tell anyone)
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posted on
07/10/2012 7:46:44 AM PDT
by
Mr. K
(OBAMA MUST BE STOPPED ROMNEY/GINGRICH)
To: C19fan
It’s interesting how so many people can believe in ouiji boards, but not something like this.
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posted on
07/10/2012 7:49:00 AM PDT
by
stuartcr
("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
To: stuartcr
To: throwback
"Then Jesus told him, Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed. John 20:29 "One of my least favorite verses... "Blind Faith" is the most blessed? how convenient...
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posted on
07/10/2012 8:35:18 AM PDT
by
Mr. K
(OBAMA MUST BE STOPPED ROMNEY/GINGRICH)
To: C19fan
The bishop of Mostar-Duvno has made it clear on several occassions :
Non constat de supernaturalitate!
You can go to the
website for the diocese here and read the opinion for yourself (anyone who is interested). It's a pretty thorough job.
It is sad that we have those that are misled. Sadder still that those outside the faith will take opportunities like this to deride Catholicism.
Slightly off topic, look up the story of Gemma di Giorgi - fascinating. As is the story of the miracle of Lanciano.
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posted on
07/10/2012 8:42:58 AM PDT
by
Graing
("The power of wind, fire... all that kind of thing")
To: BlatherNaut
I guess leaps of faith are different for different folks.
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posted on
07/10/2012 8:43:43 AM PDT
by
stuartcr
("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
To: throwback
I understand leaps of faith, but doesn’t God already know who will have or already has taken the required leap of faith?
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posted on
07/10/2012 8:48:08 AM PDT
by
stuartcr
("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
To: Opinionated Blowhard
These articles generate a lot of revenue. It’s just business.
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posted on
07/10/2012 8:50:42 AM PDT
by
stuartcr
("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
To: Mr. K
Yep, much of what He said was offensive then and now. We haven’t changed. He asks the impossible, but God...
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posted on
07/10/2012 8:58:00 AM PDT
by
throwback
(The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
To: stuartcr
I don’t know either. It seems like a contradiction. He asks us to have faith. As if we do it under our own power, but then other scripture indicates that even faith is a gift. I know I believe, but I don’t know why. I know one other thing. I can’t argue someone else into believing.
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posted on
07/10/2012 9:23:41 AM PDT
by
throwback
(The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
To: Shadow44
Your facts are a bit off....
The local bishop did in fact have negative things to say about the apparitions and tried to forbid folks from visiting. That was however overruled by the Vatican and the Church’s official stance is something like....at the moment the supernatural nature cannot be confirmed, however pilgrims ARE NOT forbidden to visit. As a general rule the Vatican doesn’t rule positively for these things until the apparitions are done. They do however rule quickly if there is obvious problems or they feel that it may lead the flock astray.
I have been to the original site back in 2000 and there were hundreds of priests accompanying pilgrims and con-celebrating Mass. Another metric that the Vatican uses to assess these situations is the “Fruit”. The good fruit from Medj. has been phenomenal.
As with any of these things, discernment is needed.
Cheers,
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posted on
07/10/2012 9:28:47 AM PDT
by
PsyOps
To: C19fan
Those folks could have saved a great deal of money.
For only $100, I would have been willing to send them a piece of toast.
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posted on
07/10/2012 9:35:56 AM PDT
by
Gator113
(***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
To: throwback
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posted on
07/10/2012 9:42:12 AM PDT
by
stuartcr
("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
To: Mercat
I agree. If it is not hurting anyone and it is bringing people closer to Jesus then why be so critical. I believe Mary has come and spoke to people. Medegorgia and Lordes France and Caraballa Spain. I mean bringing people to JEsus through his mother is not a bad thing.
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posted on
07/10/2012 10:05:44 AM PDT
by
crazydad
(-` sd)
To: crazydad
I spoke with her this morning.
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posted on
07/10/2012 3:23:37 PM PDT
by
Mercat
(Necessity is the argument of tyrants. John Milton)
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