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1 posted on 07/09/2012 12:11:42 PM PDT by mikelets456
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Good thing it is established precedent that treaties do not supercede the constitution when in direct conflict of the constitution. I don’t even think Roberts could find a way around that one.


2 posted on 07/09/2012 12:16:32 PM PDT by wolfman23601
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...wouldn’t take an Obama-appointed judge very long to extend the treaty to cover the domestic firearms market...

Is that because liberal judges are too stupid or read? Or that they're corrupt?

4 posted on 07/09/2012 12:18:40 PM PDT by GOPJ (Speak truth to lies - to ignorance. Speak honesty to corruption . Stand-up to liberal elite liars..)
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And this is why we have Fast and Furious: to garner support for treaties like this.....


5 posted on 07/09/2012 12:19:15 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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...wouldn’t take an Obama-appointed judge very long to extend the treaty to cover the domestic firearms market...

Is that because liberal judges are too stupid to read? Or that they're corrupt?

6 posted on 07/09/2012 12:19:15 PM PDT by GOPJ (Speak truth to lies - to ignorance. Speak honesty to corruption . Stand-up to liberal elite liars..)
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What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


8 posted on 07/09/2012 12:21:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father, GunnerySgt/Commo Chief, USMC 1943-65)
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If American jurists continue to be enamored by the popular trend to consider international precedence when making U.S. rulings

There are a number of FReepers who feel that way too. They got on my case during the runup to ObamaTAX.

Now that the Dread Pirate Roberts has made his ruling, they've largely shut up. Funny how that works...

11 posted on 07/09/2012 12:31:30 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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,,,,,,,, from my cold dead fingers maybe . . .


15 posted on 07/09/2012 12:55:10 PM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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Molan Labe!


18 posted on 07/09/2012 1:10:57 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia. 2016 starts today! Walker, Issa, Rubio,)
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Don’t think even the stupids in the Senate would ratify that one, and not live in serious fear.

And NO that is not a threat, just an observation so don’t send some fed baboso around for a talk.


20 posted on 07/09/2012 1:24:02 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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...wouldn’t take an Obama-appointed judge very long to extend the treaty to cover the domestic firearms market...

Well, there is that thorny problem for the gun-grabbers of needing a 2/3rds Senate ratification of such treaty.

23 posted on 07/09/2012 1:56:49 PM PDT by dirtboy
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When you absolutely, positively have to reach out and touch something powder-blue in color over 6,000 meters away.
24 posted on 07/09/2012 1:58:03 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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"...it wouldn’t take an Obama-appointed judge very long to extend the treaty to cover the domestic firearms market as well."

That's already built into the Arms Treaty in such a way that even Kennedy/Roberts may swing with them and here is why.

First, a link to the text of the treaty: "The Arms Trade Treaty (A/RES/64/48)"

Excerpted below is the section of this Treaty that calls on States{nations} for an implementation:

"Calls upon all States to implement, on a national basis, the relevant recommendations contained in section VII of the report of the Group of Governmental Experts (See A/63/334)."
Next is a link to the text of the referenced report: "Report of the Group of Governmental Experts to examine the feasibility, scope and draft parameters for a comprehensive, legally binding instrument establishing common international standards for the import, export and transfer of conventional arms (A/63/334)"

Excerpted below is the only one of three section (27-29) in above referenced "section VII" ("Conclusions and recommendations") dictating the responsibilities and required actions of signatory States:

29. The Group acknowledged the respective responsibilities of exporters and importers. In order to begin improving the current situation, the Group recognized the need for all States to ensure that their national systems and internal controls are at the highest possible standards, and that States in a position to do so could render assistance in this regard, upon request. {Emphasises added.}
How can America agreeing to implement UN requested "internal controls" of our "nation system" of gun regulations not be surrendering American 2nd Amendment rights?

Once signing such a treaty, what should Americans expect if the UN should "request" a tighter "standard" of US "internal controls" on guns and America's elected government officials refuses to comply?

All out LAWFARE, financed by the same leftist front groups (Soros' included) to force compliance through US courts! Note the "supremacy clause" of the Constitution which provides that the “Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.” {Emphasis added}

27 posted on 07/09/2012 2:08:59 PM PDT by drpix
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Sure, give a NGO international body the world ownership of weapons and the only franchise to boot.

What could possibly go wrong?

33 posted on 07/09/2012 2:32:36 PM PDT by martian622 (The Revolution is being televised.)
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Something tells me if they tried to take Americans guns away, literally, they’d be starting the war they want so bad.


34 posted on 07/09/2012 4:12:32 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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That’s quite a sales pitch. But the scenario won’t fly in our nation, where vast majorities on both the left and right are now so much in favor of Second Amendment. Firearms are in style.


35 posted on 07/09/2012 5:55:03 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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