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The Dangerous Self-Delusion of Some Conservatives
markamerica.com ^ | June 30. 2012 | Mark America

Posted on 06/30/2012 10:23:54 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

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To: Yashcheritsiy

A lot of these problems are the result of uninformed Republican primary voters too busy making money to do the political homework required.


81 posted on 06/30/2012 11:40:18 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: roses of sharon
Amazing how many men sit by and wait for Rinos to help them in the next election, how many men have sat by and let the gov steal their income, property, and now their private healthcare.

I totally misunderstood. I thought you were just one of those guys who sit around idly talking about revolution on the internet all day, but have never actually done any shooting.

How many politicians have you killed since your revolution began? Who's next?

82 posted on 06/30/2012 11:40:25 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Mark17

The snow ball has a better chance. This will never, ever be undone. That is why the decision is so devastating. Oh ppl will think they can do something by voting in anger . . . but the deed is done.


83 posted on 06/30/2012 11:40:44 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: dragnet2

Bushbots are no less part of a cult of personality than are the Obamabots.

Same cult - different messiah.


84 posted on 06/30/2012 11:42:31 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: 1rudeboy

you missed an oops - you got Miers name wrong too.


85 posted on 06/30/2012 11:42:31 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: what's up

Actually, can’t use reconciliation on the individual mandate because it doesn’t meet other tests. Trust me, reconciliation on this goes nowhere.


86 posted on 06/30/2012 11:43:50 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: EternalVigilance
I, for one, will not see anything but postive news here. Everyone else is just delusional. In fact, I'm doing a happy dance today from all the “great news”. I absolutely am holding my breath and acting like a GOP victorious unicorn with rainbows of Romney repeals shooting out my posterior.
87 posted on 06/30/2012 11:44:05 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: EternalVigilance
The only "mission" I've been able to discern from your posts of late is the election of the most liberal governor in history to the presidency.

That is because you have lost your powers of discernment, if you ever had any. My mission is to seek and spread the truth and to battle falsehood. Case in point: your claim that Romney is "the most liberal governor in history". Everyone here knows that this is just not so. You're mad at me because I am one of the few people left on this site who calls lies told against Romney what they are.

88 posted on 06/30/2012 11:44:19 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: EternalVigilance
"Everything is fine today. That is our illusion."

Voltaire

89 posted on 06/30/2012 11:45:09 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter (Ia)
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To: Marcella
I read some, as of Friday, are preparing their families to survive independently as our government no longer represents them and they see its demise.

Over and over and over again, I have reminded people I know of the need for them to take care of themselves and to reduce as much as possible dependence on government. Arrange your life so as to minimize any harm that liberal politicians will try to visit upon you.

And, for God's sake, quit voting for liberals. It encourages them!

90 posted on 06/30/2012 11:45:59 AM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: SaxxonWoods

A few weeks ago when Governor Walker won the recall election in Wisconsin a lot of conservatives mocked the “Wisconsin crying man” who said repeated something to the effect “democracy died tonight” “America as we knew it is dead” and he blubbered without shame on national TV.

Unfortunately, we have a lot of Wisconsin crying men (WCM’s) on the conservative side. It would not surprise me to find that some who mocked the guy a few weeks ago are now saying the exact same thing from the opposite side. I think those who feel they need to vent those feelings should watch the video of that guy blubbering in front of the camera. Then they may better appreciate what it really looks like.

Your insight that it may be part of the grieving process is useful. I think at some point most of them will realize how pointless the hand wringing is and buck up for the future political and legal fights that lie ahead.

I’m gravely disappointed with the decision and feeling down about it, but this is not the end of it all. We don’t need to sugar coat the decision or pretend that it will all be easy, but giving in to despair is not a particularly American trait. We would do well to resist it.


91 posted on 06/30/2012 11:47:17 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: Lazamataz
Now we must hope that every election goes our way, because one bad election, and IT'S ON.

And that is the crux. If Myth is elected and ObamaCare repealed, the Roberts Court has still enshrined sweeping new powers to tax. It has not limited the Commerce Clause nor the Necessary and Proper Clause. And it has said that it is not the Courts role to defend the Constitution from the tyranny of the majority.

Not such a bad thing really, unless Democrats were to ever again hold a majority...

92 posted on 06/30/2012 11:47:27 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: EternalVigilance

I think it is time for us to remember that G W Bush gave us this pseudo-conservative John Roberts, and G W Bush failures as President gave us Obama. Thank you, Mr G W Bush. Too bad you are not/were not a conservative.


93 posted on 06/30/2012 11:48:32 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Do not deceive thyself.

Is that all you have Jim?

Seriously?

After 14 years; thousands upon thousands of articles posted, page views, and comments; and hundreds of thousands of dollars donated, all you have to say now for Free Republic is nothing?

94 posted on 06/30/2012 11:48:45 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Theodore R.
No, you need 67 to override a veto; won’t happen.

Are you predicting that a Pres. Romney would repeal a bill repealing Obamacare?

95 posted on 06/30/2012 11:50:58 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: MileHi

THANK YOU ! ! ! !

I have been telling everyone that who cares to listen. It does not matter if ObamaCare is repealed in the Congress or Romney now.

Roberts gave Congress vast new powers that will never be curtailed.

Roberts did more harm to us this week than almost anyone has in decades.


96 posted on 06/30/2012 11:50:58 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Correct - GWB is the reason we have Obama in the first place. As mad as that makes some people - a radical like obama would never have been thought possible but for the absolute disaster of GWB’s second term.

Now we are living in GWB’s third term, but on steroids.


97 posted on 06/30/2012 11:53:00 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

There is also a strong possibility that things will not proceed as you fear. Perhaps something good will come out of this. You just never can know for sure.


98 posted on 06/30/2012 11:54:31 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

The Supreme Court’s gutting of the Constitution in the Obamacare case was the bad fruit of the GW Bush administration, no doubt about it. But it was also the first-fruits of Romney Republicanism.


99 posted on 06/30/2012 11:54:55 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Liberty. What a concept. TomHoefling.com)
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To: what's up
My concern is that obamacare seems to be “having it both ways” if you will. It is a tax, when it needs to be a tax to be considered constitutional and it is not a tax, when being considered a tax would be detrimental to it.

You can rest assured that if we had less than 60 votes to repeal, it would, for the purposes of that vote, not be considered a tax.

100 posted on 06/30/2012 11:55:47 AM PDT by Usually_Disappointed (I think the tree of liberty is getting thirsty...)
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