Posted on 06/30/2012 10:23:54 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
This may be the only site where you can post nonsense like that and usually get away with it.
Some sort of universal healthcare has been the dream of progressive reformers and democrats since before WWI. Roosevelt tried the Wagner Bill, The National Healthcare Act of 1939, but the '38 elections brought in enough conservatives to cut it short.
>> So, anyone who won’t vote for a pro-choice democrat socialist is now an “ideologue,” and is not serious?
Because tacitly supporting the significantly greater evil is a rational choice. /s
Don’t forget Teddy Roosevelt exactly 100 years ago. But, it was Romneycare that served as the mold for Obamacare.
Do you recall Pawlenty’s use of the term “Obamneycare” a few months back?
There is no difference.
Well then please ask me; I'm ready!
Yup. Want to have more than one child-fine, but we will tax you for the privelege.
Want to eat beef, sugar or fats? Okay...but we will tax you and give you permission to do so.
Quisling Roberts fundamentally changed this country in ways that will horrify us in years to come.
Ed
T.R. supported health insurance but OUTSIDE government. Obama has been pronouncing his support for national healthcare since he became a politician, predating Romneycare, which was passed in 2006 - as I'm sure you know.
There is always this weird subset of Freepers who say that any discussion of awful truths is whining, throwing in the towel, or surrendering.
I can never understand that mentality: that to reveal a bad truth is to be bad. It doesn’t make sense.
I imagine if some Jewish Freepers in the 1930’s sat around and talked about how bad the new leader Adolph Hitler is, and how they should move to America before the borders are sealed, there would have been other Freepers saying “Oh, there you go again, whining...always seeing the bad about everything.”
It’s weird.
Oh well, I’ll just continue to campaign for conservatives, manning phone banks, walking precincts, etc., as I have done since I was 13 years old, and I’ll also hold my nose and vote for Romney, because another four years of Dear Leader will change this country into Venezuela or Rhodesia.
Ed
We have to secede.
Romney has already said it all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU&feature=player_embedded
Oh? He was proposing, in the middle of a presidential campaign, universal coverage, but the government wasn't going to be involved? Can you show me something to support that theory?
Did TR's proposal serve as the model for Obamacare? Has anybody called it Roobamacare?
Pawlenty calls it Obamneycare because Romneycare gave birth to Obamacare. "There's not a dime's worth of difference" between the two. Remember that phrase?
When I went to Fox News and read the decision, my first reaction was as follows: shock and then these words went through my mind. I am now officially a slave. It is what it is, there is no way to sugar coat it. We are all slaves of the government. I weep for what my son will never have, freedom. Hell, I never really had it either, but this takes it to a level I never expected....
MOgirl
BTW, I have not given up, but any logical view of this is that things are much worse now than they were before. I will vote ABO, I will donate, I will FIGHT, but this is a game changer and one that perhaps we shall lose. Lose or win, I will die still fighting.
MOgirl
I’ll be taking my chance with Romney.
Correct. I look at GWB, Roberts, Obama boehner Reid McConnell and want to puke. Both parties are playing a con on us.
MOgirl
AMEN
Do you understand that some people's consciences will not allow them to support evil?
Do you think it appropriate to try to coerce people into violating their conscience?
Not so fast! Repealing the mandate might be possible if the GOP has 51 senate votes AND the guts to do it in the face of network news and political ads showing poor people suffering and dying, AND Romney didn't veto it, but I think you would need 60 senate votes to overturn the parts about Pre-existing conditions, under 26 covered, birth control and breast X-rays, can't charge different rates based on sex.
It's a rigged game. You have to be closing your eyes on purpose not to see that by now. But if you want to keep putting your money down, that's your business. The one-party socialist state will be quite grateful, I'm sure.
Salve
While many run on emotions, and surely they are right to be upset of this, this battle might be lost, but war is still ongoing.
I would like to bring something to this equation, from different prospective.
At the end once Avalanche process is finish, you have a good idea what will happen to rest of the country –…….
Now, this battle is not over, there are still some choices left, limited yes, they are still there. Now is up to you to unite and bring true conservatives to Both Chambers of your government.
Real ones who know how to fight a real fight will fight, not a girly fight.
If I have offended any one, my apology, but more you cry less you will pee, time to start cleaning the house friends your style in your house.
This is like one aunt wants to pick on apple, for her alone is impossible, but united in hundreds of thousands of aunts workers; apple becomes like a feather and is move to the nest. Many of you know what to do, no need to repeat, for those who complain, let them, at the end will be those true hard workers who will win.
And I don’t live in illusions, I live in reality, and nothing is lost, if in illusion I wouldn’t even write this.
Life is life, illusions are illusions, so is weakness shown to enemy.
Merci.
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