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The Dangerous Self-Delusion of Some Conservatives
markamerica.com ^ | June 30. 2012 | Mark America

Posted on 06/30/2012 10:23:54 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

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To: RIghtwardHo
Have you considered that Roberts's opinion is a reversion to medievalism. You are not compelled to contribute 1/3 of your time to working on your liege lord's estates and having your wife provide him a few nights entertainment. You can merely pay this tax of 1/2 of your goods and chattal and you are free to go your way.

The French Revolution wheeled out the guillotine to deracinate this kind of logic and here we have it back.

The man is the kind of person that King Lear's fool made a mockery of.

121 posted on 06/30/2012 12:21:06 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: hinckley buzzard
You think its disgusting now, just wait until after the election.

No matter who wins, the Republicans WILL negotiate Obamacare to please their voters who WANT some of those goodies. (many on FR admit as much) No telling how many Republican voters want their reps to “keep the good stuff”.

They want to “replace” Obamacare with their own constituents wants and needs.

AND they don't want bad press.

So, in a few months the same freepers will be arguing for Republicans to “be careful, don't alienate voters, give them some sensible health-care legislation”.

122 posted on 06/30/2012 12:23:54 PM PDT by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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To: Resettozero

The republican elites are telling us to calm down, take a deep breath, our man Justice Roberts have given us a great victory.

Does that inspire you to fight?


123 posted on 06/30/2012 12:28:24 PM PDT by DManA
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To: EternalVigilance

It all reminds me of the famously disputed meaning of the word “is”. In modern law anything can mean anything. It’s easy, just ask John Roberts or John Edwards. We mistake these robed tyrants for deep thinkers, some of them, anyway, or cumulatively, depending on our political outlook, all of them. But they turn out to be sophists, spinners of words from “is” to the “the”.


124 posted on 06/30/2012 12:28:55 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: cripplecreek

Therein YOU provide the answer to all this sick apathy, compliance and cooperation going on with this increasing and advancing tyranny being perpetrated upon a once free society.

Romney ain’t no PATTON, and no contrast to the ONE, but at most the fox guarding the hen house, himself the incubator of all things Obama; the assault on even the religious liberty issue, as well as upon capitalism and all other issues, both foreign and domestic imploding from this very state of mind.

These two guys are empty but are mysteriously gaining in power.


125 posted on 06/30/2012 12:31:07 PM PDT by RitaOK (NO ROMNEY, NO COMPROMISE. NO WAY. NO HOW. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.)
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To: roses of sharon

You’re absolutely right. If Romney somehow gets in the WH, he, the RINO’s and Democrats will impose this program with only one major change - the name. Romney will insist that he get the credit and the naming rights.

But, I don’t worry much about that because I believe that Romney will lose. And then, conservatives can reunite around the idea that the federal government should get out of the health care system completely.


126 posted on 06/30/2012 12:31:34 PM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: RitaOK
Romney ain’t no PATTON.

Obviously not and I have no intent whatsoever of voting for him. He's nothing but a slightly softer socialist than Obama. There are acceptable compromises and unacceptable compromises and he's a line that I cannot cross.
127 posted on 06/30/2012 12:36:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: dead

Like I said before, it can only be construed as defeatist by those who are trusting in those things to save the republic.

I’m not.


128 posted on 06/30/2012 12:37:07 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Liberty. What a concept. TomHoefling.com)
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To: Tau Food

Romney will keep the name ACA...he will just tell the people he IMPROVED ON THE LAW.

Republicans cannot defeat the 1st Black Presidents legacy, and they WILL NOT want to.

And some here will cheer....”what class!”


129 posted on 06/30/2012 12:39:25 PM PDT by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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To: Gator113; xzins
I think that is hopeful thinking, but I sure hope you’re right.

No it is the ultimate in pessimistic thinking and you'd better hope I'm wrong.

If Roberts decides to retire this summer, who do you think gets to appoint his replacement?

And if Obama gets to appoint his replacement, which ex first lady do you think will get the nomination?

Do you think that McConnell would mount a filibuster against HRC?

No I am NOT hoping he doesn't return in October. But I am predicting it.

130 posted on 06/30/2012 12:40:53 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Roberts Care is Romney Care on Steroids)
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To: RitaOK
These two guys are empty but are mysteriously gaining in power.

Lots of wondrous things are unfolding, even if some on FR cannot see them.
131 posted on 06/30/2012 12:42:32 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Marcella

Thank you!


132 posted on 06/30/2012 12:48:53 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Liberty. What a concept. TomHoefling.com)
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To: Revolting cat!

Yep.

And without a common understanding of the simple meaning of words, the basis for law is destroyed.

And the inevitable result of abandoning that basis is chaos, tyranny, and destruction.

The Soviet Union is a perfect example of how that works.


133 posted on 06/30/2012 12:53:27 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Liberty. What a concept. TomHoefling.com)
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To: rogue yam; Jim Robinson; Dr. Sivana; EternalVigilance; Tau Food; Windflier; roses of sharon; ...
Rogue yam:

Did the One Who breathed a soul into your body, etc., command you to vote for a relentless killer of the babies He lovingly forms, to support Adam accessing Bruce by the back door and calling it "marriage," to vote for a relentless persecutor of each and every pro-life church via Romneycare????

I am a Catholic. In that Church, we have poorly catechized types who worship themselves rather than the one and only God and do what they damn well please while blaspheming that it is somehow God's will. I hear that other quite Godly churches are similarly afflicted. If you can pimp for Romney, then what you "believe is right" and what God knows is right seem to have very widely diverged. Or do you have some direct message from God (not the alleged one you conjure up conveniently consistent with your own desires) that the rest of us have not seen?

Not despairing does not require support for the enemies of God's babies.

134 posted on 06/30/2012 12:54:09 PM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Tom Hoefling for POTUS! Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: EternalVigilance
Let's see what the “conservative” Justice Roberts accomplished, shall we?

Enumerated powers? Gone.

Separation of powers? Gone. And with it any notion of judicial restraint.

Due process? On life support.

Accountability? Gone.

Had the CJ deliberately set out to destroy what was left of the Constitution I can hardly imagine him doing a better job.

Which brings me to another question: What happened?

Remember how there was going to be the release of the Obamacare decision on Tuesday morning, and then we were told the decision would be released Thursday?

Obviously, the CJ changed his opinion at the last minute, and then spent the next day and half hastily writing the majority opinion.

So, what caused the CJ to change is vote at the 11th hour? I think the people of this country are owed an explanation.

I'm waiting for one.

135 posted on 06/30/2012 1:00:21 PM PDT by mojito
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To: Jim Robinson
The wheels have fallen been ripped off our wagon and there's no way RINO Romney can or will fix it. We been screwed. Big time.

Does this mean that the current outpouring of "Mitt, Mitt HE'S our man..if you don't agree then you're a lying, scumbag Obama supporter and should fry in hell" posts on FR can continue to flood the site?

It looks like that even if Mitt could win, it won't make a bit of difference in the long run so how about it? Is this to officially become an addition to the Romney campaign websites?

136 posted on 06/30/2012 1:03:24 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: dead
If internet bitching could get people what we want, we'd be a world of good looking billionaires.

You'll get no argument from me there!



Where there's a shell, there's a way.

25 years ago, we had Ronald Reagan, Johnny Cash, and Bob Hope.
Today we have Obama, no cash, and no hope!

If you can't appreciate the pure beauty of the violin after hearing this, something's wrong with your ears.

Or you can get raw with these strings.

How about this gamechanger from America's Got Talent (which they SHOULD have won).

Either way, the violin is sweet yet lethal.

Do it!

137 posted on 06/30/2012 1:05:28 PM PDT by rdb3 (If you were tried in court for being a Christian, would there be enough evidence to convict you?)
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To: greyfoxx39

What are you really saying?


138 posted on 06/30/2012 1:05:54 PM PDT by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: AndyJackson
Who needs French medieval rules when you can have Bostonian Redcoat squatters wagging the country with a "living breathing Constitution" and a uneducated populous spending their time fighting over the colors blue and red.

Even Paul Revere would have to agree...after this week, life is good in the Kingdom. So stay positive, have a little cake and make a toast to the French...but always keep in mind, in America, our rulers do it better.

139 posted on 06/30/2012 1:11:27 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: greyfoxx39; Jim Robinson

“Does this mean that the current outpouring of “Mitt, Mitt HE’S our man..if you don’t agree then you’re a lying, scumbag Obama supporter and should fry in hell” posts on FR can continue to flood the site?”

I quit posting on Romney threads as there was no control imposed on the Romney people’s language so it was unproductive and waste of time.


140 posted on 06/30/2012 1:12:28 PM PDT by Marcella (God wouldn't vote for Romney so I won't, either.)
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