"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."-- James Madison, the father of the U.S. Constitution
Posted on 06/30/2012 7:57:31 AM PDT by madprof98
“There's no way this is a tax. The President has made it quite clear that the $2,000 a person has to pay for refusing to buy health insurance is a punishment for disobedience, not a tax.”
--Press Secretary Jay Carney
“The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppose.”
-- Frederick Douglass
Despite whatever Roberts deemed for the Tyrant Obama
and Ms. Pelosi (who put him there by perjury),
the Constitution is clear and precise on
exactly what constitutes a ‘tax’ and
from where that it must arise.
I don’t know why the statists didn’t make the argument that when the military draft was held constitutional the principal of individual mandate was established.
If they can order you to pick up a gun and “go over the top”, or pay a tax of 10 years in Leavenworth, why can’t they order you to buy insurance?
At some point conservatives are going to have to come to the realization that the Republican Party better represents the idiology of big government and central management of the economy than it does small government and freedom. Until that happens we are going to continue to get stabbed in the back by these stealth politicians and judicial nominations.
If the GOP wants to represent big government then let them get money and votes from people who share that view. The days of me supporting candidates like George Bush (both of them) and Mitt Romney are over.
Dupree’s point is precisely that the Constitutional requirement was fulfilled in the sleight-of-hand way that the bill came into being.
I just won't play their game anymore. I no longer think a federal government is required, and it is a detriment.
You can only govern when the governed submit.
/johnny
I'm done. We don't need a federal government. I pick the 'abolish' button. I don't want to fix it, I just want it gone.
/johnny
Many different kinds of bills can originate in the House. I want to know if HR 3590 was a “revenue” bill when left the House?
In addition, the Obama Admin claims it is not a tax but rather it's a penalty, which in that case, Justice Roberts declared the penalty via the commerce clause unconstitutional.
Good points...but too many today cant tell the difference between a conservative and a republican...and automatically think an R next to someones name means “conservative”
I do not hold out for much hope that Romney, the Grandfather of ObamaCare, will really overturn ObamaCare
I don’t know why the statists didn’t make the argument that when the military draft was held constitutional the principal of individual mandate was established.
If they can order you to pick up a gun and “go over the top”, or pay a tax of 10 years in Leavenworth, why can’t they order you to buy insurance?
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Their shills did try to make this argument. But they knew that this power came from a different part of the Constitution. Art 1 Section 8 has a clause that provides for organizing and arming the militia.
The problem is, if it IS a tax, the Supreme Court lacked standing to rule. That’s where this whole thing falls apart.
Analysis, including discussion of the Anti-Injunction Act of 1867:
http://www.tenthamendment.net/home/story.asp?postid=15
"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."-- James Madison, the father of the U.S. Constitution
Sorry, but the major flaw is yours.
Whether called a "tax" or a "penalty", it IS "revenue", therefore covered.
A better challenge might be to challenge the law on equal protection grounds, since in the law certain privileged groups were granted waivers from having to pay what is now a “tax”.
Jizya - a tax for those who decline to be subject to government mandated religion ... oops, I meant government mandated healthcare.
Amen brother. Amen.
Amen brother. Amen.
You obviously didn’t read Justice Roberts ruling. Go read it then shoot your mouth off.
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