Sorry, no sale here either.
The thing that is most infuriating about this decisions is this: The Obama administration explicitly argued that this was NOT A TAX.
The other eight justices were ready to decide this case up or down based on the arguments made by both parties to the case - the states and the US Government/Obama administration. This was an up/down case on whether the Congress, invoking the Commerce Clause, could *force* you into doing commerce where you had been doing none before and had no intention otherwise of conducting commerce.
It was that simple: Could Congress force you to buy a product you didn’t want to buy for the simple reason that you were in the US and under the jurisdiction of the US?
And Roberts blew this simple question. He made an argument that the Obama administration explicitly denied they were making. Where did he get the right or power to do that? I have no idea.
Moreover, he’s a moron for decided that this was a tax. The legislation doesn’t impose a tax - it does impose a penalty for not carrying or obtaining insurance from some provider. The mandate is to buy the private insurance, not to pay the penalty. The penalty is conditional upon ignoring the mandate. The problem was always the mandated commerce.
Only a bunch of Ivy League graduates could take such a simple question and make it so complicated. Roberts, as we’ve now seen, is about as bad as Souter was.
Thanks to Bush, we have this idiot as the CJ of the SCOTUS for a long time to come...
Roberts GAVE THEM an out ..HE brought up the idea that it’s a tax
May he rot in hell
WELL WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE FOLKS ?
WHERE IS THE MILLION MAN MARCH ON
DC /
WHERE IS THE NEW SUPER CHARGED TEA PARTY OUTRAGE..HUH WHERE IS IT ?
WHO IS ORGANIZING IT ? I HAVEN’T SEEN A WORD OF REACTION WITH TEETH IN IT
If we dont tear DC down then we deserve this
Roberts GAVE THEM an out ..HE brought up the idea that it’s a tax
May he rot in hell
WELL WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE FOLKS ?
WHERE IS THE MILLION MAN MARCH ON
DC /
WHERE IS THE NEW SUPER CHARGED TEA PARTY OUTRAGE..HUH WHERE IS IT ?
WHO IS ORGANIZING IT ? I HAVEN’T SEEN A WORD OF REACTION WITH TEETH IN IT
If we dont tear DC down then we deserve this
Roberts GAVE THEM an out ..HE brought up the idea that it’s a tax
May he rot in hell
WELL WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE FOLKS ?
WHERE IS THE MILLION MAN MARCH ON
DC /
WHERE IS THE NEW SUPER CHARGED TEA PARTY OUTRAGE..HUH WHERE IS IT ?
WHO IS ORGANIZING IT ? I HAVEN’T SEEN A WORD OF REACTION WITH TEETH IN IT
If we dont tear DC down then we deserve this
I don’t know if Roberts is an idiot, a liberal, a coward, on meds, blackmailed/threatened, or what.
I do know that 0bastardcare is a rotten, stinking pile of crap. And that Roberts was WRONG to vote that it is constitutional in any way, shape or form.
I'd like to know how they are going to enforce this now? I guarantee that there are already schemes in place ready to scam the system. Congress has not solved a problem, they have created 50 million more problems! When this legislation was in its creation stage, there were many questions about how the government would be able to force a twenty-something to pay for a product he did not want nor think he needed. Billions of dollars were budgeted to hire IRS agents to track down the scofflaws and force their cooperation. We may yet see a debtor's prison for those who protest this illegal mandate and refuse to pay the penalties and interest such rebellion will rack up. Those who can somehow "prove" financial hardship will be exempt from the "tax" yet will STILL be provided health care paid for by those of us who actually pay taxes. Rather than eliminate fraud, this will open a whole new avenue to do so. Just watch!
may I remind everyone that there was jubiliation when Roberts got appointed to the court, even here on FR....
I must say I was confused why Bush would make him Chief Justice and not the scholarly Scalia....
think folks...if we had a Bork....if we had the Senate back then...
votes do count...
don't throw another rat senator at us while you're either not voting or voting third party...
True enough on public statments, but the Administration's lawyers defended it as a tax in court.