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To: OneWingedShark

If Arizona wants to go at it alone - more power to them.

Staying in the US after a law was passed granting the states total control over immigration while at the same time bound to recognise all citizens - would be an unmitigated disaster.

If the SCOTUS rules on thursday to uphold the individual mandate, I suspect there will be calls to secede outright.

Which isn’t a bad thing given our ‘choice’ between Obama and Romney.


38 posted on 06/25/2012 12:12:10 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: JCBreckenridge
Which isn’t a bad thing given our ‘choice’ between Obama and Romney.

I've been saying it for a while but that would be an unmitigated disaster; it's a Morton's Fork.

If the SCOTUS rules on thursday to uphold the individual mandate, I suspect there will be calls to secede outright.

That won't fly; there's too many "inseparable part of the union"-type clauses in a lot of State Constitutions.
There is, however, something nearly as fun that can be done [by border-states]:

  1. Declare a "state of invasion" calling up the State's National Guard, and the state militias, while issuing shoot-to-kill authorization.
  2. Demand from D.C. aid; they are required to do so via Art 4, Sec 4 of the US Constitution.
    "We need help NOW! If we didn't we wouldn't have had to call up our unorganized militia."
This in turn leads to only three options the Fe[d]ral government can reply with:
  1. Send help; highly unlikely given the political entrenchment of the "open borders" folks.
  2. Drag-feet/delay/dissemble; this is more likely, but given the above would be politically disastrous, as well as proving that in addition to immigration-law the federal government can also choose whether or not to obey the Constitution.
  3. Attack the state; perhaps the most likely option... and the most interesting given the Definition of Treason contained within the US Constitution.
    1. Executive -- Actual military attack.
    2. Judicial -- Declaring that the states do not have the power to defend themselves... and thereby invalidating EVERY State Constitution wherein the duty for a defense against invasion is mentioned.
    3. Legislative -- Likely some sort of targeted laws or funding cutting.
It becomes even better if two or three states do it: imagine AZ, NM, and TX all declaring invasion and militantly securing the borders.
43 posted on 06/25/2012 12:27:33 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: JCBreckenridge; Eaker

>>If the SCOTUS rules on thursday to uphold the individual mandate, I suspect there will be calls to secede outright.<<

I’m hoping the FReepers that are holding a place for us in the beautiful state of Texas will be ready for the camper, The former Marine hubby and my two handgun and Krav Maga girls to arrive ready to fight!

Oh, and the cookies. My famous chocolate chip cookies!


49 posted on 06/25/2012 12:56:06 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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