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To: antiRepublicrat

Keep checking the stock market, and especially the Apple stock price, because, in about 2 years, you might have to sell your Apple stock.

BTW, Apple is, mostly, a hardware company, and makes most of its money from hardware sales, and the software is just for support.

Microsoft is a software company, which also designs and sells hardware. Microsoft makes most of its money from software, especially in the Office arena, and server markets. Microsoft is now delving deeper into the hardware arena, BIG TIME!, and may surpass Apple’s sales and profits in the hardware area in about a year or two. You are comparing “Apples and Microsofts” and, if one were to discount the area where each one is not a “major” player in, then, you’d have to take away Apple’s software, and Microsoft’s hardware. If you could do that, then, Apple would be dead, and Microsoft would still continue being the biggest software company in the universe.

Apple has more money in the bank than Microsoft, but, when it comes to the total value of the assets of the companies, if a fire sale were to be held, with both companies selling all of their hardware and software, there is no doubt that, Microsoft would end up way ahead in the money collected from the sales, because, it’s got the much bigger selection and the the most used combination of products and services.

When it comes to the Macs, it’s only in your mind that they are superior to the PCs, especially if the PCs are made with the same parts and functionality and performance in mind. And, lately, governments and universities and businesses, are beginning to refuse to use Macs in their work environments, because, the Macs are not EPEAT compatible. That’s going to hurt Apple’s bottom line.

When it comes to the system I’m writing, my primary test browser is FF, and I later test for other browsers. I’m not targeting any specific version of a browser. My testing for IE, has been with IE9 and IE10.

BTW, when it comes to IE marketshare, they were dropping a few months ago, but, one of the reports I saw a couple of months ago, showed that IE is increasing its market share again, even if slowly. IE 9, and now, IE10, are beginning to outclass and outperform the other players in the market, and that’s according to browser tech experts and tests conducted. When Windows 8 launches, IE10 will be the default browser for Microsoft, and, because of the $40 upgrade to get people to move from XP and Vista and Windows 7, IE10 will become the instant leader in browsers, by a large margin.

You have to admit, for a company which has had a number of failures, Microsoft ain’t doing that bad. And, it’s got a future which is a lot more secure than Apple with its “measly” 3 products. ;)


271 posted on 07/11/2012 2:23:08 PM PDT by adorno
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To: adorno
Keep checking the stock market, and especially the Apple stock price, because, in about 2 years, you might have to sell your Apple stock.

You still have no solid reasoning why this historical trend should reverse.

Apple has more money in the bank than Microsoft, but, when it comes to the total value of the assets of the companies, if a fire sale were to be held

Nobody values a company this way unless it's in bankruptcy.

When it comes to the Macs, it’s only in your mind that they are superior to the PCs, especially if the PCs are made with the same parts and functionality and performance in mind.

First, they're pretty much never made with the same parts. Specifically, nobody else is using the same cases, and nobody is using that Retina display. Nobody else is integrating as tightly to produce very small, high-powered computers. But the OS being part of the package, that helps keep it superior. As opposed to you, I used both Mac and Windows regularly, actually using Windows more. It is a pleasure to come back from work and use the Mac.

And, lately, governments and universities and businesses, are beginning to refuse to use Macs in their work environments, because, the Macs are not EPEAT compatible.

That was a daring move by Apple, dropping an obsolete marker of how recyclable a computer is. I'm betting EPEAT gets updated after this slap by the maker of the most environmentally friendly computers on the market. Apple never did well by Greenpeace's standards either, even when Apple had phased out hazardous substances long before the highly-rated competition.

What's interesting is exactly what caused it. Apple is moving to tighter integration and slimmer and slimmer cases. All of it is 100% recyclable (Apple will take it back for free for recycling), but because Apple uses glue instead of screws, they couldn't get the rating.

I’m writing, my primary test browser is FF, and I later test for other browsers. I’m not targeting any specific version of a browser. My testing for IE, has been with IE9 and IE10.

My primary desktop browser is FF too. Your problem with targeting IE9 and IE10 is that constitutes about 5% of the market for IE9, 0% for IE10. So much for targeting the most used platform. The rest of the IE versions that are horrible at handling modern web apps represent the other ~50% of IE market share.

When Windows 8 launches, IE10 will be the default browser for Microsoft, and, because of the $40 upgrade to get people to move from XP and Vista and Windows 7, IE10 will become the instant leader in browsers, by a large margin.

Despite Microsoft's best effort to kill it for over a year now, IE6 still has 10%. It will be several years before IE10 even hits 30%. That's where IE8 is, over three years after being released, and being included with the "best selling OS ever."

You have to admit, for a company which has had a number of failures, Microsoft ain’t doing that bad.

Microsoft's been riding the monopoly gravy train for years, not even bothering to innovate, just copy. Actually, as I told you, even destroying internal attempts to innovate. Even if Microsoft stopped development cold, they could ride Windows and Office for at least a decade and retain 50% market in Windows, 80% market in Office. Microsoft didn't have a monopoly in the mobile space, so falling asleep for just a couple years screwed them as Apple destroyed their market share.

And, it’s got a future which is a lot more secure than Apple with its “measly” 3 products. ;)

You still haven't answered my question. Where has Microsoft reinvented or revolutionized a market in the past decade? Can you even give me one example? Apple has four examples, each one insanely profitable. I should make that five, including the App Store separately. And that's what this about, profit. We are talking companies after all.

272 posted on 07/11/2012 4:10:04 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: adorno
Guess what, Macs are now EPEAT compatible again. Apple has reversed position and is now sticking with EPEAT. But remember my quote:

I'm betting EPEAT gets updated after this slap by the maker of the most environmentally friendly computers on the market.

Along with Apple announcing a return, EPEAT is now talking about revising their standards to include things they haven't thought of. My bet is that EPEAT asked Apple to come back, but Apple demanded an update of their standards.

273 posted on 07/15/2012 8:10:44 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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