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Actually, according to most technology experts, the Zune was/is, technologically, a vastly superior MP3 player to the iPod. It failed in the marketing, with Microsoft and it's marketing arms not doing an adequate job. But, I'll admit, marketing is part of the overall drive to get products to be accepted, and, Apple has been good at that, even if the iPads and iPhones aren't really superior or extraordinary technology.

Yeah, Microsoft has a lot of difficulty when entering into markets where they can't use and abuse their monopoly marketshare of MS-Windows. I suspect that they'll do o.k. with this 'surface' thing though, because theycan depend upon legions of IT workers who think that because they can click "OK" on a bunch of dialog boxes, that they are some kind of "administrator", to push this in the enterprise because they will expect Microsoft to do all the actual configuration and integration for them. Along the way, any incompatibilities that crop up that make it difficult to interoperate with any other non-Microsoft solution will be someone else's problem.

Yeah, Microsoft has a lot of difficulty when entering into markets where they can't use and abuse their monopoly marketshare of MS-Windows.

Yeah, just like they did with Xbox, and with browsers, and with PC OSes, where, they didn't even have a presence, before they became a contender, and then, the leader. Now, they don't even have a presence to speak of in tablets, and they're about to use that monopoly they have in tablets to become a bigger monopoly? Is that about right? Methinks that, you don't know what the heck you're talking about.

I suspect that they'll do o.k. with this 'surface' thing though, because theycan depend upon legions of IT workers who think that because they can click "OK" on a bunch of dialog boxes, that they are some kind of "administrator", to push this in the enterprise because they will expect Microsoft to do all the actual configuration and integration for them.

Something tells me that, you don't really know what the heck you're talking about in this area too. If administration is as simple as just clicking on a series of buttons and dialog items, WITHOUT the understanding the people MUST HAVE before doing that clicking and selecting, then, you would be correct. But, that isn't all that's required is it? Perhaps you need to investigate what the heck is required before being so dismissive about what it takes to administer a server system.

Perhaps we'll have systems that are as simple as you state, but, not yet.

Besides, isn't making things as simple as possible what the Apple fanboys keep telling us that Apple accomplishes so nicely. IOW, people who use Apple computers, do so because, they don't have to think, and things come to the intuitively. So, if Microsoft is doing the same, or attempting to do the same, why would it be such a negative when Microsoft does it? Methinks that, you're just exhibiting your hate for anything Microsoft.

Along the way, any incompatibilities that crop up that make it difficult to interoperate with any other non-Microsoft solution will be someone else's problem.

Actually, the bigger, or biggest, fear that MS server administrators have in mind, is the attempt by MS to simplify matters so much, that, the admin jobs will no longer be needed, and, the OS might end up being capable of taking care of most, if not all, administrative functions. When the total system gets to that point, there won't be a need to worry about incompatibilities, since, the system will have become a lot "smarter", and it will be able to recognize differences between the different components and systems and OSes and hardware attached to the network. That is one of the directions for the cloud, where, no matter what hardware and/or software is communicating via the network, the network will handle all of them, including systems and hardware and software from all different vendors/manufacturers.

Basically, I see no problem at all with trying to get all computers to be able to talk to each other seamlessly, and that's the direction which Windows 8, and perhaps even iOS are trying to take us. Perhaps you prefer the old days of old technology, where you do all the thinking and setting up of all the painstaking details, in order to get things done.

Perhaps the times have left you behind, and you are in dire need of upgrading your thinking and technology ideas.

Yeah, Microsoft has a lot of difficulty when entering into markets where they can't use and abuse their monopoly marketshare of MS-Windows.

Yeah, just like they did with Xbox, and with browsers, and with PC OSes, where, they didn't even have a presence, before they became a contender, and then, the leader. Now, they don't even have a presence to speak of in tablets, and they're about to use that monopoly they have in tablets to become a bigger monopoly? Is that about right? Methinks that, you don't know what the heck you're talking about.

One huge matter you're forgetting about, is the application side, where, as far as I can recall, people still have to design them, and develop them, before they become part of the overall system. Microsoft has, as of yet, not figured out a way to replace the development side of the computing equation. Perhaps you're one of those that believes that, all apps that were and will ever be needed, already exist in the app store? Administratively, applications need to be handled too, and, it means, administrators who understand the functionality and purposes for those applications.

I suspect that they'll do o.k. with this 'surface' thing though, because theycan depend upon legions of IT workers who think that because they can click "OK" on a bunch of dialog boxes, that they are some kind of "administrator", to push this in the enterprise because they will expect Microsoft to do all the actual configuration and integration for them.

Something tells me that, you don't really know what the heck you're talking about in this area too. If administration is as simple as just clicking on a series of buttons and dialog items, WITHOUT the understanding the people MUST HAVE before doing that clicking and selecting, then, you would be correct. But, that isn't all that's required is it? Perhaps you need to investigate what the heck is required before being so dismissive about what it takes to administer a server system.

Perhaps we'll have systems that are as simple as you state, but, not yet.

Besides, isn't making things as simple as possible what the Apple fanboys keep telling us that Apple accomplishes so nicely. IOW, people who use Apple computers, do so because, they don't have to think, and things come to the intuitively. So, if Microsoft is doing the same, or attempting to do the same, why would it be such a negative when Microsoft does it? Methinks that, you're just exhibiting your hate for anything Microsoft.

Along the way, any incompatibilities that crop up that make it difficult to interoperate with any other non-Microsoft solution will be someone else's problem.

Actually, the bigger, or biggest, fear that MS server administrators have in mind, is the attempt by MS to simplify matters so much, that, the admin jobs will no longer be needed, and, the OS might end up being capable of taking care of most, if not all, administrative functions. When the total system gets to that point, there won't be a need to worry about incompatibilities, since, the system will have become a lot "smarter", and it will be able to recognize differences between the different components and systems and OSes and hardware attached to the network. That is one of the directions for the cloud, where, no matter what hardware and/or software is communicating via the network, the network will handle all of them, including systems and hardware and software from all different vendors/manufacturers.

Basically, I see no problem at all with trying to get all computers to be able to talk to each other seamlessly, and that's the direction which Windows 8, and perhaps even iOS are trying to take us. Perhaps you prefer the old days of old technology, where you do all the thinking and setting up of all the painstaking details, in order to get things done.

Perhaps the times have left you behind, and you are in dire need of upgrading your thinking and technology ideas.