The Department of Justice s Operation Fast and Furious: Accounts of ATF AgentsAgent Casa recounted a similar situation. He had also never heard of, nor seen, guns being allowed to walk until he got to Phoenix:
. . . . But from the time I started as an ATF special agent . . . up until the time I got to Phoenix, that was my understanding, that we do not let guns walk, absolutely, positively not. And if we if ever a case [where]we would do that, there better be a really good explanation why we did not grab that gun when we could.
Q. But that changed when you came to Phoenix, I mean the practice at least changed, correct?
A. Yes.
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As Agent Dodson testified:
Q. Based on our training and experience, what did you think about [walking guns]?
A. It was something I had never done before, sir. And quite frankly, I took great issue with it and concern.I felt like I understand the importance of going after the bigger target, but there is a way to do that. We did it successfully in the dope world all the time. And those skills and practices that we used there, a lot of them transfer over, and more than applicable in gun trafficking investigations, but we werent allowed to use any of them.
Q. And did you ever have a recollection of sharing your frustration with Special Agent Casa?
A. Oh, yes, sir.
Q. And any other special agents that you can
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And maybe you could just tell us what other agents you
A. Pretty much everyone, sir. It was, I shared my reservations and concerns with Special Agent [L], with Dave Voth, with Special Agent [D]Special Agent [H], Special Agent Alt, Special Agent [P], several of the special agents that came on the GRIT, G-R-I-T. The gunrunner initiative is what it stands for. I shared them with or I voiced my concerns to other agents inside the Phoenix field division that was on other groups.
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Despite this e-mail, agents continued to experience dismay and frustration as Operation Fast and Furious continued along its perilous path. As Agent Casa testified:
Q. And is it fair to say that. . .the folks on your side of the schism wanted to do everything they could to interdict these weapons so they wouldnt get any farther down the street than they have to?
A. Yes, sir. We were all sick to death when we realized that when we realized what was going on or when we saw what was going on by the trends. We were all just, yes, we were all distraught.
The rift widened when the Assistant Special Agent in Charge (ASAC) authoritatively and unambiguously told Group VII that guns were not being walked, that the special agents were incorrect in their terminology, and that there would be no more discussion or dissension about this topic. Agent Dodson testified:
A. Then we get an e-mail that . . . there is going to be a meeting. [the ASAC] is coming down, [the ASAC] comes into the Group 7 office and tells us essentially we better stand down with our complaints, that we didnt know what the definition of walking guns was, we werent familiar with the Phoenix way of doing things, that all of this was sanctioned and we just needed to essentially shut up and get in line. Thats not a quote, but thats the feel of the meeting, so . . .
How do you "lose track" when you are ordered to "allow them to "walk"?"
“How do you “lose track” when you are ordered to “allow them to “walk”?” “
You don’t - because that was never the goal. The gun-grabbers have long contended that “90% of the guns in Mexico come from the US” or some such bilge. What better way to prove such an absurd* allegation than to actually make it come true yourself, and to thereby have a tool to use to control guns.
This was not only a horrific crime that resulted in hundreds of innocents being murdered (so far), not only breaking US law (unless Hillary’s State Dept. OK’d the export of the guns in question, an interesting topic all by itself), but it was a conspiracy directed from the very top (YES, Obama) to further erode/destroy the 2nd Amendment. It is also an act of war upon Mexico. Obama should be impeached for this, and Holder and his fellow conspirators tossed in jail for a lot longer than Liddy, et al were for Watergate - at least with Watergate, no one was murdered.
* “absurd” because no self-respecting drug lord is going to send people across a (semi-) guarded border to buy semi-automatic weapons at $600-$1,000 per, when they can have all that they want of FULL auto guns from any number of sources around the world for $100-$200 each.
TREATY ENDANGERS SECOND AMENDMENT AND U.S. SOVEREIGNTY(April 2009)
Unlike Clinton, Obama has no plans to let the treaty languish without ratification. Thus he promised to push the treaty through the Senate quickly as a means of curtailing the border violence and arms trafficking in Mexicos current drug wars. Yet the text of CIFTA indicates that the treaty would do very little to curtail violence in Mexico, unless creating a national gun registry in the United States is something that will cut crime south of the borderOn April 16, 2009, President Obama emerged from a meeting with Mexicos President Calderón to announce his support for the Inter-American Convention against the Illicit Manufacturing and Trafficking in Firearms treaty (CIFTA): an international gun control treaty signed by President Bill Clinton in 1997 but never ratified by the U.S. Senate.
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