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To: firebrand

The Obamacare mandate forces individual commerce. It then fines you as an individual, if you do not buy the
“commercial” product (healthcare) from someone (an insurance provider/company).

Obamacare forces businesses to provide this commercial product which by law includes abortion services and all forms of birth control to employees.

Catholic institutions will not tolerate these inclusions in their insurance for employees, so Obamacare has defined what is “religious” and by doing so forces the product upon Catholic hospitals, schools and all manner of ministries.

Sebelius defines these institutions as NOT religious because they employ some non-Catholics and they serve non-Catholics.


65 posted on 06/18/2012 9:59:51 PM PDT by RitaOK (NO ROMNEY, NO COMPROMISE. NO WAY. NO HOW. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.)
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I think the Catholic church should say “Fine, we're closing all of our hospitals and only serving Catholics.”

They should post this in all of their Hospitals, Soup Kitchens, etc that because of President Obama, this is what we have to do starting on this date. These places serve many people, and I bet Obama would back track immediately.

But the church won't, because they don't want to be seen as uncaring or not compassionate, which I completely understand. But it's time to play hardball, Catholic church, my church, because the POTUS is using your caring nature against you to force you to give up your religious conscience and fund Abortion. Call his bluff.

And if anyone thinks I'm telling my church to lie, because they'd never close their hospitals or stop helping the poor, maybe I am. But I'd rather lie then fund abortion because Obama says so.

69 posted on 06/18/2012 10:24:58 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: RitaOK

I know all that stuff. I thought there were ridiculously peripheral things in there that have nothing to do with health care. If any of those things stand, we are still screwed, unless the Court overturns the whole law. I hope those 9 people know what’s in there.


75 posted on 06/19/2012 3:39:50 AM PDT by firebrand
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