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To: tobyhill

I hope you have enough to pay for a catastrophe. Your stance sounds noble but care for some bad illnesses can be hundreds of thousands of dollars.


6 posted on 06/17/2012 6:05:21 AM PDT by Woodsman27
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To: Woodsman27

I’ll pay them $10 a month. The law already prohibits hospitals from turning anyone down with life threatening situations. The hospitals have also been involved in this scam so they can also suck wind for all I care.


9 posted on 06/17/2012 6:10:27 AM PDT by tobyhill (Conservatives are proud of themselves, Liberals lie about themselves)
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To: Woodsman27
I hope you have enough to pay for a catastrophe. Your stance sounds noble but care for some bad illnesses can be hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I don't know tobyhill, I hope he's rich, I'm sure he means what he says, etc., etc.

HOWEVER

Most who choose this path deal with the reality of medical bills they can't pay by - not paying them.

Since we require, by statute and by tort law, that hospitals and doctors deliver the care, no matter what, and since we allow nonpayment, we are on a path to destruction - slow but sure.

Something's gotta give.

10 posted on 06/17/2012 6:10:43 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Anna Wintour makes Teresa Heinz Kerry look like Dolly Parton.)
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To: Woodsman27; tobyhill
Your stance sounds noble but care for some bad illnesses can be hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Your post provides me with an opportunity to point out an interesting contrast.

On the one hand, people constantly mention that the hospitals are obliged to provide treatment whether you can pay or not. On the other hand, people constantly mention that treatment may cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Now, that isn't necessarily contradictory. But if it isn't, we're talking about accepting the current state of affairs -- socialized medicine -- and every man for himself, attempting to find a way to shirk responsibility for his own expenses and dump them on someone else.

It would appear that freeper tobyhill is one of the very few who are unwilling to participate in a thoroughly corrupt system.

Meanwhile, that system is only in its early stages, and everyone who participates, accommodates, or adjusts to it, is complicit in its advance to complete, dehumanizing tyranny.

But you all just go ahead and adapt, and don't forget to vote for Republicans who have no intention of simply abolishing the system.

31 posted on 06/17/2012 7:24:37 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (God-issued, not govt-issued.)
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To: Woodsman27
I hope you have enough to pay for a catastrophe. Your stance sounds noble but care for some bad illnesses can be hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Catastrophic health insurance anyone? Does your auto insurance cover oil changes -tell you where to get your oil changed and set pricing? Insurance at one time was for exceptional expenses -nat ALL expenses. NOW it is a government promoted monopoly that funds a health plan that covers ALL expenses. In essence, the insurance companies and government colluded to remove the healthcare system from ALL checks and balances that a free market would provide.

Medical 'consumers' are now simply indentured serfs standing in line at the company store -with pricing and services ALL decided by centrally located elites. The healthcare reform plan was simply the final solution to a crisis created by the ones who claim to be fixing it.

ONLY useful idiots support the promotion and propagation of this 'insurance' scam.

39 posted on 06/17/2012 10:32:18 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: Woodsman27; tobyhill

You might want to reconsider. Last year, my husband developed severe torso pain and decompensated in the doctor’s office (shock symptoms.) He was hospitalized immediately, and imaging indicated kidney stones. He received IV fluid and antibiotics overnight, as well as pain medication. The next morning, he was well enough to be discharged.
The bill was $12,000.

What people don’t realize is that Medicare and insurance drive the cost of medical care upwards, since providers receive a smaller amount than their billing indicates. I guess they have experienced that, if they charge less, the insurance companies will pay less, and the patients will have to pay the remainder, so it’s better that they get paid more.


44 posted on 06/17/2012 12:24:46 PM PDT by Silentgypsy
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