“Capt. Tania Bryan, director of public affairs for the Alaskan Command, said the crash was believed to be that of a vintage aircraft and “not recent.”
How long have they had one missing??
My apologies for a bad post, I don’t post news very often or at all, but this little event is not very far from me, there is a near total lockdown of anybody in the flight area by a NOTAM.
Also though they say it may be a military crash my money is its the ill fated expedition of hale Boggs.
If it is then it also reveals a Clinton connection, here is a link to that story.
http://www.check-six.com/lib/Famous_Missing/Boggs.htm
Did they find a funny shield with a star on it?
http://www.check-six.com/lib/Famous_Missing/ArmyU-21_081.htm
If its this wreck which is military then they must have flown in the opposite direction. Knik Glacier I have hunted near, Iliama is over by Anchorage maybe 60 miles or so away.
Hale Boggs was the father of ABC News’ Cokie Roberts.
Here is another notorious Alaska missing aircraft, that to date has not been found. Nor any of the 44 persons on board.
http://www.check-six.com/lib/Famous_Missing/C-54D_42-72469.htm
Will Rogers and Wylie Post immediately come to my mind.
If it was her, Amelia Earhart was really really really lost.
Here's the link to the Alaska Historical Society on the subject:
“Some of the other interesting points surrounding the disappearance include; Boggs was taken to the airport for the first leg of the trip by a young democrat named Bill Clinton who later, as President, appointed Congressman Boggs’ wife, Lindy, to the position of US Ambassador to the Vatican after she served eighteen years in the Congress after her husband’s disappearance.”
So how did Clinton benefit? He got the girl?
Unknown Location AK, Flying Boxcar Crashes, Nov 1952
Posted January 21st, 2008 by Stu Beitler
SECOND FLYING BOXCAR IS MISSING IN ALASKA.
BIG AIRPLANE FEARED DOWN WITH 20 MEN.
Anchorage, Alaska (AP) — Another big C-119 Flying Boxcar, with 20 men aboard, has disappeared in Alaska and is feared to have crashed, the Air Force announced Sunday.
The twin-engined, double-tailed transport is the third of its type lost in eight days. They carried 83 men.
Nineteen airmen and soldiers went down with a C-119 when it hit an Alaskan peak Nov. 7. A week later, 44 died in a Korea mountain crash.
The latest C-119 to meet disaster vanished Saturday on a flight from Elmendorf Air Force Base, Anchorage, to Kodiak, 250 miles to the southwest.
Aboard were five crewmen, one Air Force enlisted medic and 14 Army men stationed regularly in Alaska. Identification were withheld.
Search Curtailed.
Bad weather Saturday curtailed search operations, but clouds cleared Sunday and nine Air Force planes shuttled between here and Kodiak seeking some clue to the transport’s fate.
Dozens of other planes and paramedic crews stood by ready to take off at a moment’s notice if needed.
The missing transport was on a routine flight as part of “Exercise Warmwind,” current Alaska training maneuvers. Its sister ship that struck Mt. Silverthrone, 135 miles north of here, on Nov. 7 also was taking part in the exercise. Bodies of the 19 victims have not been recovered.
From Florida Base.
Both C-119s were from the 435th Troop Carrier Wing, Miami, Fla., and were among more than a score flown north for the maneuvers.
The Air Force said the missing plane last was heard from at 12:06 p.m. Saturday (5:06 p.m. EST) 25 minutes after takeoff. The flight to Kodiak should have taken only an hour and 25 minutes. The plane was posted as overdue after its fuel was known to have been exhausted at 9:40 p.m. (2:40 a.m. Sunday, EST).
The route to Kodiak Island, in the Gulf of Alaska, is over both land and water.
The Alaskan Air Command said the C-119 should have been over the rugged, mountain studded Kenai Peninsila[sic] when it made its last report.
Walla Walla Union-Bulletin Washington 1952-11-17
TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: No trace of the aircraft or its occupants has ever been located.
Partial Listing of Missing Passengers and Crew.
Capt. RUSSELL G. PECK, JR., instructor-pilot, Hialeah, Fla.
Capt. EDWIN S. BOYD, pilot, Hialeah, Fla.
AIrman 2C JOHN T. LANDIS, radio operator, Miami.
Airman 1C JIMMIE ROBERTSON, flight engineer, son of J. S. Robinson, Perry, Fla.
http://www3.gendisasters.com/alaska/4622/unknown-location-ak%2C-flying-boxcar-crashes%2C-nov-1952
Military moves cautiously in identifying plane wreckage
With a dozen planes gone missing, investigators can’t say right off which this is.
Read more here: http://www.adn.com/2012/06/16/2507734/investigators-move-cautiously.html#storylink=cpy
Debris from old military plane on glacier sent to labs
http://www.adn.com/2012/06/26/2521241/debris-gathered-from-old-military.html
http://www.adn.com/2012/06/27/2522442/plane-found-on-glacier.html
Aircraft debris on glacier identified as 1952 wreck
Investigators say pieces of a vintage military airplane discovered on a glacier in the mountains east of Anchorage came from an Air Force plane that crashed in 1952, killing everyone in it.
“The evidence does positively correlate to that wreckage,” Dobson said.
The Globemaster was the largest plane of its type at the time at 130 feet long and with a wingspan of 174 feet, according to the National Museum of the Air Force. It was capable of handling cargo as big as a tank or bulldozer and, if outfitted for transporting passengers, could carry as many as 200 soldiers, the museum says.
According to a report in the Walla Walla Union-Bulletin after the wreck, the plane had taken off on a 1,400-mile flight from McChord Air Force Base, near, Tacoma, Wash., to Elmendorf Air Force Base in Anchorage. The plane lost communication while flying toward Elmendorf on the more than six-hour flight and was only about 45 minutes from landing, the Washington state newspaper reported. Some aviation historians have speculated that the plane was blown off course by heavy winds.
The Globemaster’s last-known position was a point in the Gulf of Alaska near Middleton Island, but searchers found it farther inland, close to Mount Gannett, as poor weather was closing in, according to the Union-Bulletin story. It appeared to have hit the mountain’s south face. There were no survivors.
The C-124 Globemaster carried 52 people, according to Capt. Jamie Dobson, spokeswoman for the Joint Prisoners of War, Missing in Action Accounting Command, whose investigators are looking at the debris from the plane. An Army National Guard helicopter crew on a training mission spotted the pieces last week on Colony Glacier, in the Chugach Mountains 45 miles east of Anchorage, and the JPAC investigators recovered parts of the plane, pieces of its life-support system and possible human remains a few days later, Dobson said.
On Wednesday, Dobson said the plane is believed to be a Douglas C-124A Globemaster, a heavy-lifting transport plane that crashed Nov. 22, 1952. The wreckage has apparently been slowly churning inside the glacier for 60 years, she said.
Dobson, the JPAC spokeswoman, said harsh winter weather prevented a recovery at the time.
“From what I’ve been told, this particular incident, when the initial search party got to it, only the tail was visible,” Dobson said. “Then due to weather they had to call off the search. Later, they just weren’t able to find where the wreckage was.”
“I can’t imagine what people were thinking back then. They must’ve been so frustrated, thinking they knew where it was but unable to find it.”
According to the Union-Bulletin story, the crash was the third disaster for U.S. military planes in Alaska in a 15-day period. The Globemaster was one of about a dozen military aircraft thought to have crashed within the same 20-mile-wide area, said Dobson, the JPAC spokeswoman. She would not comment on what specific piece or pieces of evidence linked the debris to the 1952 Globemaster crash.
The next step in the investigation is to start contacting family members of the plane’s occupants, Dobson said. The process will likely include asking for DNA samples in an attempt to return any human remains to the families, and could take up to six years to complete, she said.