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13 June 2012 | Grig (aka TheCrewsayder)

Posted on 06/13/2012 6:05:21 PM PDT by Grig

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To: Finny

Sorry, I misread your post. I meant that for romney lovers.


561 posted on 06/16/2012 3:42:21 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: fireman15

Your third man would be an odd man statistically.
This year lds are supporting Romney at 95-98%.


562 posted on 06/16/2012 4:34:14 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Linda Frances

You could try this:
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:saundraduffy/index?brevity=full;tab=comments


563 posted on 06/16/2012 4:38:07 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: TheOldLady
Whiny little victim card player


564 posted on 06/16/2012 5:19:10 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Godzilla

Hey, Big Guy! Nice to see you again. I know you’re busy, but don’t be such a stranger.

You’re right, too. Whiny little victim is an antifreeper and deserved what he got.


565 posted on 06/16/2012 6:24:52 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: ansel12
Alright Ansel, I owe you an apology, you rubbed me the wrong way the other day. It may sound funny, but my dog has been very sick the last couple of days and I may have taken it out on you. So I am sorry, please accept my apology.
566 posted on 06/16/2012 7:43:04 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: svcw

He very well could be; I haven’t had much contact with other Mormons in the last few years. I did have a lot of Mormon friends in high school. I was a member of a very conservative church. Because of my beliefs I have never drank alcohol and neither did they. So we did a lot of fun stuff together largely in Boy Scouts. They seemed very conservative to me at that time and also to be good citizens. We never talked religion because they knew that I was already set in my ways.


567 posted on 06/16/2012 7:43:23 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Really, it doesn't matter which candidate I name -- because you won't do anything until I do your work for you and 'get him in the lead'
"You" is all the folks who think you can somehow miraculously get a candidate out in front of the GOP candidate within the next four months. You can't possibly believe that is within the realm of possibility, even if you had the *fervent* encouragement, support and eager, all-in assistance of every freeper past & present. If you believe that is possible, you are deluded and irrational. Even if *I* were to devote myself 24/7 until Nov 6th, we would come up lacking. We (conservatives) are outnumbered. We need to change that, but it will take longer than the next 4 months to get it done. It will likely take a few generations. So to be clear, I'm in agreement with you about what we'd like to see happen, but I disagree that it can be done in the next four months.

Most urgent priority: Vote Obama out of office by giving maximum advantage to the candidate with the best odds of doing it. If you don't think that's the GOP candidate, then tell me who else leads among likely voters.

Now, presuming you possess functioning sense of logic and reason: barring some completely unexpected miracle or leading candidate melt-down on live tv, there are only two viable candidates: The Dem candidate and the GOP candidate. There is no chance for a write-in. There is no chance for a third-party candidate. You know that as well as I do. I don't like it, but that is the reality everyone has to live in.

We could ask, "Do we want a constitutional-conservative elected as President in 2012? Of course we do. The question then becomes, "How do we do that, given we don't have a candidate we (conservatives) can all agree on *AND* given that the GOP has a candidate way out in front among likely voters?" The question is ridiculous on it's face at this point, four months before the election. We already had our chance in the primaries and blew it, primarily (I think) because we lacked a unifying conservative candidate. Even if we had the numbers this time, we (conservatives) would have still messed it up by squabbling over minutia and would have been split a dozen different ways. We proved that over and over and over during the primaries.

So, the only question remaining at this point, four months before the election, is: "Do you want Obama to win or lose?"

Going out on a limb and presuming you want Obama to lose, what do you think a reasonable and prudent course of action would be to vote Obama out (because that's the only way it's going to happen):

Option 1: Sing the blues about the crap candidate we've been stuck with by all the moderates, centrists, RINOs, independants and right-leaning dems? Throw a fit and not vote? Vote for (or write-in) some non-viable candidate? Or my favorite lame-brain plan: do something to try to "Teach the GOP a lesson" (like they give a rat's butt what we think)? or some other protest action...

Option 2: Use the remaining four months to try and drag down the current leader because we don't like him and were out-voted in the primaries by non-conservatives and replace him with some long shot candidate using the outnumbered forces of Free Republic / conservatives / Tea-Partiers? Good luck with that. If we *COULD* do that, Romney would not be the leading candidate right now and we wouldn't be having this discussion. You can't even get the F.R. crowd to agree on who that candidate would be. Ergo, "pipe-dream".

Option 3: Vote for whatever candidate leads against Obama among likely voters?

I'm going for Option 3. You do whatever you like. I lack the capability (or even the desire at this point) to tell you what you should or shouldn't do. I only defend my choice as the most rational, logical and *feasible* course of action. And yes, you could not be more wrong about me, but if it helps you feel better by accusing me of being a GOP puppet or whatever, more power to you. Like I've clearly stated consistently, over and over, I am only beholden to whoever stands the best chance of defeating Obama, whoever that is. Getting Obama out of office is my sole focus at this point. After that is done, the fight continues in whatever direction you like. But if Obama wins, by the time he's done ignoring congress, stacking SCOTUS with lib-progs, czaring/regulating to skirt the legislative process, etc. etc. etc... I'm not sure what all will be left that would be worth fighting for in *MY* remaining lifetime. It would probably be a battle for my great or great-great grandchildren after Obama's lifetime SCOTUS appointments retired/died.

568 posted on 06/16/2012 8:06:58 PM PDT by jaydee770
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To: fireman15

That’s nice, but it doesn’t belong on this thread.


569 posted on 06/16/2012 8:10:53 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

Of course you are correct again, and I apologize to my other friends on this thread for this intrusion. My privileges to communicate through Freeper Mail had been taken away so I had no other way to offer an apology to you. I have also asked the mods to delete all of my other distasteful replies to you. Humbly yours, Fireman15


570 posted on 06/16/2012 8:21:29 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Graybeard58
I do not use the word "noob" disparagingly, it's just something we've all been through, except for J.R.

HMMmmm...

Kinda like the same thing when asked, "Well; just who created GOD?"

571 posted on 06/17/2012 5:18:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: reaganaut

Nyah nyah!

I just made up for it!


572 posted on 06/17/2012 5:19:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Darksheare
Couldn’t be that they are trying to fake an event like Dan Rather did, right?

Depends on how FREQUENTLY they do it, I suppose...

Right; Kenneth?

573 posted on 06/17/2012 5:22:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Finny
Elsie, you are one of my heroes.

Man!

You just GOTTA set yer sights HIGHER!


Are you a former Mormon?

No; and I don't play one on TV.

However, I do have some links to MORMONs mentioned on TV:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25PGOODs99o

574 posted on 06/17/2012 5:26:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ReformationFan
- Your grandchildren will call Mormons Christians, and look at Mormonism as the third branch of Christianity alongside Catholicism and Protestantism”

Cue Who's Sorry Now?


The

DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS

OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

SECTION 71

Revelation given to Joseph Smith the Prophet and Sidney Rigdon, at Hiram, Ohio, December 1, 1831. HC 1: 238–239. The Prophet had continued to translate the Bible with Sidney Rigdon as his scribe until this revelation was received, at which time it was temporarily laid aside so as to enable them to fulfill the instruction given herein. The brethren were to go forth to preach in order to allay the unfriendly feelings that had developed against the Church as a result of the publication of some newspaper articles by Ezra Booth, who had apostatized.

1–4, Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon are sent forth to proclaim the gospel; 5–11, Enemies of the saints shall be confounded.

1 Behold, thus saith the Lord unto you my servants Joseph Smith, Jun., and Sidney Rigdon, that the time has verily come that it is necessary and expedient in me that you should open your mouths in proclaiming my gospel, the things of the kingdom, expounding the mysteries thereof out of the scriptures, according to that portion of Spirit and power which shall be given unto you, even as I will.

2 Verily I say unto you, proclaim unto the world in the regions round about, and in the church also, for the space of a season, even until it shall be made known unto you.

3 Verily this is a mission for a season, which I give unto you.

4 Wherefore, labor ye in my vineyard. Call upon the inhabitants of the earth, and bear record, and prepare the way for the commandments and revelations which are to come.

5 Now, behold this is wisdom; whoso readeth, let him understand and receive also;

6 For unto him that receiveth it shall be given more abundantly, even power.

7 Wherefore, confound your enemies; call upon them to meet you both in public and in private; and inasmuch as ye are faithful their shame shall be made manifest.

8 Wherefore, let them bring forth their strong reasons against the Lord.

9 Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you—there is no weapon that is formed against you shall prosper;

10 And if any man lift his voice against you he shall be confounded in mine own due time.

11 Wherefore, keep my commandments; they are true and faithful. Even so. Amen.

 

575 posted on 06/17/2012 5:29:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
Kinda like the same thing when asked, "Well; just who created GOD?"

A Mormon would have to come on thread to answer that.

Getting ready to go to Sunday school and church on this Lord's day. I can't skip out, I teaches the class.

576 posted on 06/17/2012 5:29:35 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Obama versus Romney? Cyanide versus arsenic.)
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To: F15Eagle
So there’s nothing to find.

Says the ill-informed tour guide!


http://www.bookofmormontours.com/


--MormonDude(You may thank me later)

577 posted on 06/17/2012 5:32:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: fireman15
We are ALL getting testy these days; due to the apparent choices we've been given to date.

But; GOD is NOT mocked and He IS sovereign over this world.

579 posted on 06/17/2012 5:35:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Grig
This may be the post that gets me zotted, and if so, so be it, but it would be a nice sign of respect for free speech, and just plain old maturity if that doesn’t happen.

I know you're long ago zotted but I have to comment on that.

It's the same old "free speech, free speech", that every liberal spouts, not having any concept whatsoever of private property rights.

Now you have more free time to spout any and all nonsense you want to on your own property.

580 posted on 06/17/2012 5:36:19 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Obama versus Romney? Cyanide versus arsenic.)
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