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To: bramps
Well, that disaster scenario would happen if all conservatives and Republicans were as enthusiastic about straw man arguments as you. :^)

But most are more sensible than that. Don't look now, but your hysteria is showing.

I can hardly make it any clearer than this: for me, the object is to register the presidential vote for anybody BUT Obama and anybody BUT Romney, even though -- actually BECAUSE -- one of them is pretty much guaranteed to win. I hope and pray sensible people vote third party for the express purpose of making it so that, when the dust clears, the amoral authoritarian statist president we end up with will have to face a nation where conservatives are stronger than ever in Congress and where two out of every three voting Americans voted AGAINST him.

It would be easier to reach that goal if there WAS a Perot in this race, and there may be one yet. But "the Ross Perot in this race" isn't really necessary. All that is necessary is for conservatives and Republicans to heed their better jugment, listen to their gut, and avoid Romney like the plague. You must think pretty lowly of all the "conservative Young Bloods" we are hoping to see increase so powerfully in Congress, if you think they couldn't be a serious obstacle to Obama if he got re-elected. You act as if with Obama, "resistence is useless." If you have so little faith in the new conservatives the Tea Partiers are working to get elected to Congress, don't you figure they'd roll over even quicker to liberal Romney, since he's the defacto leader of the Republican party? How on earth do you rationalize that they would fight Romney at all, if you think they wouldn't be able to check Obama?

Voting to weaken the victor's mandate is the only way we can give all those conservatives we voted for down-ticket the chance to see a weak, defensive statist president whom they can DOMINATE.

Your false mantra is to claim that refusing to vote for Romney "helps" Obama. Here's the truth: whether you mean to or not, voting FOR Romney is helping liberal statism. There's only one way to avoid doing that -- vote for SOMEBODY ELSE and let the chips fall where they may. Our Founders designed a pretty good system for voters. LET IT DO ITS WORK.

It's like this: ABO is founded in fear and touched with hysteria. Fear and hysteria lead to bad moves and mistakes, and have pretty much since Adam. That is a HUGE WARNING SIGN that ABO is bad strategy.

495 posted on 06/14/2012 12:16:43 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Finny; All

Volumes of empty rhetoric. Here’s a very simple question I’d bet a dollar you sidestep with more hollow words:

Sounds like you at least acknowledge that either Romney or Obama will be the next president. You wake up the day after the election and turn on the news, who do YOU PREFER (even if it’s by a 0.000001% difference) they say is our next president? Mitt Romney or Barack Obama?


499 posted on 06/14/2012 12:40:31 PM PDT by bramps (Newt was the one, but Romney will do.)
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To: Finny
If you have so little faith in the new conservatives the Tea Partiers are working to get elected to Congress, don't you figure they'd roll over even quicker to liberal Romney, since he's the defacto leader of the Republican party? How on earth do you rationalize that they would fight Romney at all, if you think they wouldn't be able to check Obama?

Voting to weaken the victor's mandate is the only way we can give all those conservatives we voted for down-ticket the chance to see a weak, defensive statist president whom they can DOMINATE.

Your false mantra is to claim that refusing to vote for Romney "helps" Obama. Here's the truth: whether you mean to or not, voting FOR Romney is helping liberal statism. There's only one way to avoid doing that -- vote for SOMEBODY ELSE and let the chips fall where they may. Our Founders designed a pretty good system for voters. LET IT DO ITS WORK.

It's like this: ABO is founded in fear and touched with hysteria. Fear and hysteria lead to bad moves and mistakes, and have pretty much since Adam. That is a HUGE WARNING SIGN that ABO is bad strategy.

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Excellent post.

539 posted on 06/14/2012 1:52:15 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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