Well back in the day, many have argued that Obama was born in Hawaii (jus soli ABs) on FR and therefore eligible for Pres, but their numbers have dwindled under the avalanche of evidence. Most have moved onto “believing” that Obama was lying then and not now about being born in Kenya so he is still. I suppose these types of ABs are somewhere running around here too, but are muted by the overwhelming preponderance of evidence.
Then there were a few, back in the day, (probably still around here somewhere) who believed that the underage mother Dunham could transmit her US citizenship (making Obama NBC) regardless if Obama was born overseas and received that he got a foreign citizenship at birth.
I think the most prominent ABs who are still around usually argue that the 14th Amendment modified the NBC clause or that NBC always meant being born jus soli because that what Great Britain considered births under the Crown to control (not totally true) their empire without regard to alien parents. Some of these jus soli ABs have a foreign spouses and are emotional and not objective about the subject so they “believe” that their offspring are NBC.
Then there are still those who believe that just having American parents is good enough to be an US NBC when the child is born in a foreign country. But this runs counter to the US jus soli only afterbirther argument. This only parents argument denies the country of origin of birth the same, unless the ABs think that you can be a natural born citizen of more than one country. So many variations!
However Phil, when it comes to contemporary ABs on FR, you know better than I since you seem to seek and give them (These days I only occasionally do so) your effective, rhetoric answers. :-)
You might wish to read Red Steel's reply 31, particularly the last sentence.
It was interesting that it is THEY that are still invested in the ‘where he was born’.
What is going to come out is fraud and forgery. And ‘where’ will be secondary. Fukino must believe she is well enough buffered from the forgeries to do an interview like this. Fuddy....maybe not so much since she has allowed her letter to stand as a cover letter to a clear forgery.
Using tankers terms - they are trying on suits of reactive armor since they know a shaped charge warhead is coming.