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To: HiTech RedNeck
I am not at all sure what the heck you were trying to say in that post but I will take a wild stab that you were saying something along the lines that the CIA would not be involved in F&F. I agree. AFAIK they were not involved in F&F at all. They had something else entirely going on.

"Grenade-walking" part of "Gunwalker" scandal

And this...

Worse Than Gunwalker? State Dept. Allegedly Sold Guns to Zetas

Phil Jordan, a former CIA operative and one-time leader of U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration’s El Paso Intelligence Center, claims that the Obama administration is running guns to the violent Zetas cartel through the direct commercial sale of military grade weapons:

Jordan, who served as director of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration’s El Paso Intelligence Center in 1995, said the Zetas have shipped large amounts of weapons purchased in the Dallas area through El Paso.

(snip)

“They’ve found anti-aircraft weapons and hand grenades from the Vietnam War era,” Plumlee said. Other weapons found include grenade launchers, assault rifles, handguns and military gear including night-vision goggles and body armor.

More about State Department involvement...

— has sources claiming “Obama’s man in the State Department,” (former) Deputy Secretary of State Jim Steinberg, was the State Department operative who helped Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and the Department of Justice Deputy Attorney General David Ogden formulate the strategy that led to the tactics used in Operation Fast and Furious.

Steinberg took office as Deputy Secretary of State on January 28, 2009

A little more than two years later, it was announced that Steinberg's time in the Obama State Department was over. From the New York Times, 30 March 2011:

Mrs. Clinton heaped praise on Mr. Steinberg, describing him as an “indispensable” partner. “On every foreign policy challenge, big and small, he has helped formulate our policy and oversee its execution,” she wrote. Mr. Steinberg, she said, played “Oscar to Jack Lew’s Felix,” referring to Jacob J. Lew, her other deputy, who left earlier this year to become Mr. Obama’s budget director.

Want to read even more about State Dept. involvement? ...

Sipsey Street Exclusive: "In at the beginning." The State Department & the Gunwalker Scandal.

38 posted on 06/06/2012 2:58:04 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

Moles could be elsewhere too, I suppose. Or just plain sell-out diplomats. But F&F does seem far more logical as a way of stealth arming Mexican drug cartels, assuming someone who wanted that was in a crucial control position, than as a means of trying to manipulate international sentiment about gun control.

Something stinks in the state of Denmark (or as Archie Bunker would put it, Denver), however you look at it. I hope Issa gets to the bottom of it, but I’m not wildly hopeful.


42 posted on 06/06/2012 3:15:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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