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To: Boogieman
It seems that you just can’t admit the difference between what the Constitution says and how you interpret it. Article 4 says what it says, not what you want it to say.

It says Congress has the right to prescribe the manner in which a state proves its acts. Secession is an act.

Now you’re trying to place the words you want me to have said in my mouth, so that you can denounce me. I didn’t say I would “let” California do anything. I only said that they would have the right to secede at that time, just like any other state at any other time. The fact that you framed the question to try and color judgement with emotion doesn’t change the fact that the question must be answered based on principles rather than emotion.

Emotion has nothing to do with it. You said California would have the right to confiscate our federal warmaking ability on Dec 8, 1941.

119 posted on 06/11/2012 5:21:53 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

“It says Congress has the right to prescribe the manner in which a state proves its acts. Secession is an act.”

Sure, and that’s all it says. It doesn’t say anything about dispossession of Federal property, or special conditions on proving secession acts, like you keep asserting. In fact, the words “general laws” directly contradict your assertion that a special process is needed for secession, which you still have not rebutted.

“Emotion has nothing to do with it. You said California would have the right to confiscate our federal warmaking ability on Dec 8, 1941.”

Yes, emotion has everything to do with how you framed the question. I simply stated a fact, that States have the right to secede. Then I elaborated that secession would always bring up a necessary problem of seizing immovable military assets, and that this problem is normally dealt with in a few different ways. You are the one who tried to frame the question to trap me into saying that I would support California seceding and following a particular path to handle that problem. If you read my answer, you’ll see I made no such assertion, I just said they have a right to secede at any time, as a general principle.

If you didn’t want to color the question with emotional baggage, then firstly, you would have picked a neutral scenario with no emotional connotations, and secondly, you wouldn’t have immediately gloated about your misinterpretation of my answer as if I had fallen into your emotionally-laden trap.


122 posted on 06/11/2012 6:04:13 PM PDT by Boogieman
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