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Scientists Late to Recognize Human and Giant Mammal Coexistence (article)
Institute for Creation Research ^ | 5-30-2012 | Brian Thomas

Posted on 05/30/2012 11:41:28 AM PDT by fishtank

"Giant mammals roamed North America during the Ice Age, but were humans among them? A site in Vero Beach on Florida's East coast contains mammoth, mastodon, giant ground sloth—and human fossils. The problem is that humans were not yet supposed to have been there, according to the standard story told to generations of archaeologists.

When discovered in the early 1900s, researchers insisted that the Vero Beach human remains washed in long after the large mammals fossilized. But new results, like so many other similar reinvestigations of old sites, show they were made at the same time and that humans lived and died in North America long before believed. What took researchers so long to acknowledge that?

The reason why it took so long for the evidence to come to light may be the same reason why fossil evidence of humans and dinosaurs is so scarce."

more at link...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clovis; gagdadbob; giant; onecosmosblog
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To: Tupelo
The fact is, there is/was a consensus among scientists that huge mammals and humans did not coexist.

If there is/was such a consensus, it didn't exist in the 1970s when I was in elementary school & we learned humans & mammoths coexisted.

21 posted on 05/30/2012 12:49:06 PM PDT by gdani
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To: ZULU

20+ years ago there was a Mastadon find close to me in Michigan. It was noted then that there were marks on the leg joints that indicated the Natives used tools to
dismember the beast.

If I remember correctly there was also some evidence that they then stored some of the meat by submerging it in the bottom of lakes.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1988&dat=19860612&id=00QiAAAAIBAJ&sjid=-asFAAAAIBAJ&pg=3541,3614265


22 posted on 05/30/2012 12:52:10 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

ding ding ding ....... winner


23 posted on 05/30/2012 12:54:03 PM PDT by IBIAFR
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To: dinodino

The issue, I believe, is did they co-exist in North America?

IIRC, all of the cave paintings are from Europe, where Home Sapiens evidence goes back 50K+ years, whereas the Clovis people, the first humans in North America came about 14K years ago.


24 posted on 05/30/2012 1:01:34 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: gdani
"That humans & mammoths coexisted is not news. Or even in dispute.Of course, ICR wants people to make the leap that humans & dinosaurs coexisted. Because any other scenario is downright unbiblical."

True. For some "interpreters" :)

"Without a doubt, the ultimate Black Swan is whatever it was that permitted merely genetic human beings to emerge into full humanness just yesterday (cosmically speaking), some 50,000 years ago. .....

"....once man consciously enters the sensorium of time and space, he is implicitly aware of both Absolute and Infinite, and therefore Love, Truth, Justice, Beauty, Virtue, and Eternity. These are the things that define man, not his genome. ....."

Creation Myths of the Tenured

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Why Darwinists Reject Evolution

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The Darwinian Tower of Monkey Babble

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25 posted on 05/30/2012 1:01:57 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ("There is no limit to the depravity of the liberal mind" ~ Rush Limbaugh 5/23/12)
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To: fishtank

Very interesting—worth the read.


26 posted on 05/30/2012 1:10:43 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: BigBobber

The Māori arrived sometime before A.D. 1300, and all moa genera were soon driven to extinction by hunting and, to a lesser extent, forest clearance. By about A.D. 1400 almost all moa are generally thought to have become extinct, along with the Haast’s Eagle which had relied on them for food. Recent research using carbon-14 dating of middens strongly suggests that this took less than a hundred years,[39] rather than the period of exploitation lasting several hundred years which had been earlier believed. Moa it was what’s for dinner in New Zealand way before the European arrived.


27 posted on 05/30/2012 1:22:31 PM PDT by JimC214
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To: BigBobber
Easy pickin’s for that expanding edge of humans who first arrived.

I don't think hunting a 6 ton animal with a sharpened stick "easy pickins". I am sure the first jab really keyed in the mammoth real quick.

28 posted on 05/30/2012 1:30:16 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Darteaus94025

So your programing hasn’t taken affect.....Hmmmmm, don’t you know that the “SCIENCE IS SETTLED”???????

But seriously folks, what part of the Clovis spear point being European in origin and not Asian that they won’t accept.


29 posted on 05/30/2012 1:31:43 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: fishtank

Thanks for this thread.


30 posted on 05/30/2012 3:46:21 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: BigBobber
The mass extinction of all those cuddly mammoths caused by the Native Americans just does not fit into the liberal mythology.

There were other animals of that time period who went extinct also, at least one type of antelope and a long horned bison bit the dust along with the mammoths, IIRC.

31 posted on 05/30/2012 5:53:03 PM PDT by calex59
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
They can't acknowledge that Indians were not the first native Americans. It would damage their victim status.

You know, I've often wondered about "native Americans". Isn't anyone born in North America a native American?

On the other hand, maybe you're not a native if your ancestors came from somewhere else, in which case nobody, but nobody, is a native American.

I propose a solution. We have African Americans, Caribbean Americans and European Americans. So why don't we call those red guys "Siberian Americans"? Because (a) it's the truth, and (b) it would irritate the H* out of them.

32 posted on 05/30/2012 11:47:00 PM PDT by John Locke
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To: Matchett-PI

The article also mentions that level 2 is sedimentary and I’d like to point out that a REALLY LARGE FLOOD would produce sedimentation as the waters retreat. Scientific evidence for biblical events is found OFTEN and NEVER acknowledged by these atheists.


33 posted on 05/31/2012 10:00:47 AM PDT by trumpetvine
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