Posted on 05/28/2012 6:57:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
PRINCETON, NJ -- U.S. veterans, about 13% of the adult population and consisting mostly of older men, support Mitt Romney over Barack Obama for president by 58% to 34%, while nonveterans give Obama a four-percentage-point edge.
These data, from an analysis of Gallup Daily tracking interviews conducted April 11-May 24, show that 24% of all adult men are veterans, compared with 2% of adult women.
Obama and Romney are tied overall at 46% apiece among all registered voters in this sample. Men give Romney an eight-point edge, while women opt for Obama over Romney by seven points. It turns out that the male skew for Romney is driven almost entirely by veterans. Romney leads by one point among nonveteran men, contrasted with the 28-point edge Romney receives among male veterans.
The small percentage of female veterans in the U.S., in contrast to their male counterparts, do not differ significantly in their presidential vote choice from the vast majority of women who are not veterans.
The proportion of U.S. men who are armed forces veterans rises dramatically among those who are 60 and older. The military draft was in force in the U.S. from shortly before the U.S. entry into World War II until the early 1970s. A majority of men now 70 to 89 served in the military, including almost three-quarters of those aged 80 to 89. Less than a fifth of men younger than 50 have served in the military. There is little variation in military service among women across these age groups.
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You're making a poor generalization. Whether one is ABO or not it's not to hard to see that plenty of ABO people have "looked at Romney". Have a little more respect for good conservatives who are following the opposite strategy of yours.
Myself, when the election rolls around I will consider the flipping liars past deeds as well as his current platform, I will contrast that to the big Zero and then I will make my decision about what to do.
Said on a thread that reports that "Veterans Give Romney Big Lead Over Obama (58% to 34%)" on Memorial Day no less.
Not sure I’m buying this. Did these same veterans vote for McLame? Why not? And if they did, why didn’t that give McLame the edge?
I have 2 family members that are currently in the military. They are voting for the GOP candidate which will probably be Romney. They both say the VERY few that they know, that like Obama, are black and some younger punks and those are few and far between...... and not all of the blacks like Obama. In fact, according to them, some detest him.
I’m not scared crapless of Obama. He’s an evil, mentally ill, America hating, hard core Marxist. Romney isn’t. Easy choice. I want Barry Hussein Soetoro out and I never want to see his face again.
Your point is inescapable. If veterans who vote Romney aren’t allowed to stop Obama without being branded traitors, even on Memorial Day, I give up.
There are soldiers who voted for MCCAIN, to stop Obama, that are now buried as they have since died for their country.
Traitors?
Voting mindlessly?
I think NOT.
Navy and Air Force. :-)
It’s probably the veterans against the war group.
Is anyone else having HUGE problems with these ‘people’ on Fox NC right now at the Vietnam Memorial? There is just something so very bizarre and uncanny about this.
“I’m disappointed that its not 85% for Romney and less than 15% for the Poser. Are 34% of the veterans not informed or and happy with what is in store for them on the horizon with the health care the veterans will be getting under Obamacare?”
Take a look at the percentages for FEMALE veterans. 47% for Obama, 42% for Romney.
What’s going on with them?
"The sky is falling!" ABOers will shriek that Obama the Omnipotent won't be touched or affected by the fact that (ideally) 66% of Americans voted against him but he won on a plurality, but again ... it would be solely a kneejerk emotional reaction. In reality, Obama WOULD be made weak, his enemies in his own party would become that much more powerful, and Republican in Congress will know they'd better fight for limited government because "moderate" and "statist" lost in BOTH PARTIES.
Romney is a ruthless control freak -- look at his record and look at his MO. He's not going to roll over to conservatives if he gets in the White House, but "conservatives" already elected will roll over for him because he plays political hardball. It would be stupid to elect him.
If you vote for Romey OR if you vote for Obama, you will be voting FOR more and bigger government. PERIOD. In the presidential race, if it's O v R, there is only one way you can effectively vote against more and bigger government: vote third party and leave it to the wind which one wins, as your vote will have zero affect on that outcome, but your vote WILL have the effect of weakening the statist winner and empowering his opposition, which would be a GOOD thing whether it was Obama or Romney.
I have respect, compassion, and empathy for them. Warning them, reasoning with the facts and estimated risks, even telling them that their approach is stupid, and urging them to look again, think again, consider the multiple angles and consequences, is very, very far from not respecting them.
How about YOU have enough respect for MY point of view that you don't automatically consider thinking your choice is a badly thought one "disrespectful"? You can call my take on OvR stupid if you want, and I understand that there is no disrepect intended. Why don't you do the same? GET IT?
Maybe they are not really veterans at all.
In Texas Vietnam Veterans News, Volume 22, Issue I, Winter 2010. Portions of which got in my craw. Something fierce.
And it has to do with the ubersoldiers. Something I just made up for the fakes that prance around and pretend they are vets and heroes. When they’re only mousy wannabe warriors without the consequence of ever serving in harm’s way.
In the “Who Claim to Have ‘Been There” department, it’s written in the issue:
• 1,713,823 of those who served in Vietnam were still alive as of August, 1995 (census figures).
• During that same Census count, the number of Americans falsely claiming to have served in country was: 9,492,958. (Those who actually served in country amounted to 2.7 million)
• As of the current Census taken during August, 2000, the surviving U.S. Vietnam Veteran population estimate is: 1,002,511. This is hard to believe, losing nearly 711,000 between ’95 and ’00. That’s 390 a day.
• During this census count, the number of Americans falsely claiming to have served in country is: 13,853,027. By this census, FOUR OUT OF FIVE WHO CLAIM TO BE Vietnam vets are not.
Stats such as the above make the hairs on my neck rise up. In my mind the pulpy and tacky idjits who claimed to have served in country are no better than those who would steal butter from a man that’s got hot pancakes coming.
But let’s read on. ‘Cause the Grim Reaper is closing in on the ones that did serve.
“Of the 2,709,918 Americans who served in Vietnam; less that 850,000 are estimated to be alive today, with the youngest American Vietnam veteran’s age approximated to be 54 years old.
“So if you’re alive and reading this, how does it feel to be among the last one-third of all the U.S. Vets who served in Vietnam? Don’t know about you, but kinda gives me the chills, considering this is the kind of information we are used to reading about WWII and Korean War vets.
“So the last 14 years we are dying too fast, only a few will survive by 2015 … if any.
“If true, 39 VN vets die a day, on average. So in 2,190 days from today, you’re lucky to be a Vietnam veteran alive … in only 6 years.”
In my book, by the numbers, those are sobering statistics. And I salute the ones that served.
However, through the years I have met a number of supposed GIs that hid in imaginary root cellars, worked the bolt on M-16s, popped rounds as a door gunner, and rescued comrades in arms, yet stateside became legends in minds befogged by grass and other opiates and alcohol. Of those that boast with questioned-credibility, I only say, “Show me your DD-214.”
For those of us that can display a DD-214, at the oddest of times, we’ll recall the camaraderie of card playin’, horseplay, R&Rs, sights and smells of a strange little country … along with the horror of war … down the road.
If you have watched him over the years and how he plays politics, how his supporters behave, their lack of ethics as amply and consistently demonstrated over the years on FR, you're dreaming if you think a guy like Romney would roll over to limited government conservatives once he got the White House. No, this is what would happen: he'd use the same hardball ruthless tactics to suppress and hurt limited government Republicans in Congress. It's what Romney IS. It is what you'd be voting FOR as the price for voting "against" Obama, whom you grant about 10,000 times more Godlike powers and sources of support than he actually possesses.
Hello????
Hello???
You think you are voting "against" Obama, but the reality is that YOU ARE VOTING FOR MORE AND BIGGER GOVERNMENT.
Hello?
That gift was squandered when we ignored their warnings and instituted Universal Suffrage via Constitutional amendment.
DC will never fix the problem, DC IS the problem.
The sooner the collapse happens, (that would be when the SS and disability stop coming)the better.
Then it will be possible to start from scratch, first order of business moving the Capital out of DC and rotating it amongst the states.
Personal observation of the political leanings of some draftees I know from the Vietnam Era. The 34% favoring Obama came from somewhere.Do you feel volunteers make up the bulk of this 34%?
It’s not enough to be against everything. You have to be for something. Right now we have 2 electable candidates. Refusing to choose a candidate and sitting out this election out means you stand for nothing.
Romney has an 87% approval rating among GOP voters. The ABO train has left the station.
Don't put words in my mouth. I "lectured" you specifically for saying that "All you ABO people"..."are only looking at Obama".
As I said, your generalization is poor. I give far more credit to ABO people or at least some of them. Many are very familiar with the flipping liar's record.
How about YOU have enough respect for MY point of view that you don't automatically consider thinking your choice is a badly thought one "disrespectful"?
I have no idea what you are trying to say.
A 3rd-party vote is a valid political expression, without question...the Mittens Derangement Syndrome, not so much...
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