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To: butterdezillion; Tex-Con-Man
I'm sorry, butter. All of your conjecture has been proven wrong.

... which according to HRS 338-14.3 would have required the HDOH to certify the true facts of Obama’s birth - including place of birth, date of birth, and the parents’ names.

That is exactly what Hawaii verified. They verified 12 specific items (including but not limited to the place & date of birth and the parents' names), verified that the information in the copy of the LFBC submitted by Bennett matched their records and went a step further:

"I certify that the information contained in the vital record on file with the Department of Health was used to verify the facts of the vital event." - Alvin T. Onaka, May 22, 2012
http://www.kvoa.com/files/Verification%20In%20Lieu%20of%20Certified%20Copy.PDF

that they CANNOT verify any birth facts for Obama because his birth record is late and amended and thus not legally probative.

Well, they've done exactly what you said they couldn't.

84 posted on 05/25/2012 10:16:53 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

“I certify that the information contained in the vital record on file with the Department of Health was used to verify the facts of the vital event.” - Onaka

He is not certifying that “the above is a true and correct copy”. He is certifying that he looked at a record.

Onaka, elsewhere in his email to Bennett, said, “I verify that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama that you attached with your request matches the original in our file.”

Original what? Internet image? Or vital record?

Onaka’s slippery language is a contrivance.

A routine, ordinary, mundane, “the above is a true and correct copy” would suffice, and it is reasonable to expect such.

Artfully worded customized responses composed under legal guidance, against a backdrop of evolving statements, for what should be routine matter, does not instill confidence.


87 posted on 05/25/2012 11:49:53 AM PDT by Ray76
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